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Post by mgrlane » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 pm

john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:07 pm I have a very good friend whose on the bench about covid vaccine and has told me from day one. He also is quite happy not to come in if we don’t want him to, but at least he’s told us. All our other friends have had both jabs, we know because they tell us. I don’t think it’s too difficult to do that out of respect.
Do you let your friend in your house that hasn't had a jab?

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Post by john-e89 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm

mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 pm
john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:07 pm I have a very good friend whose on the bench about covid vaccine and has told me from day one. He also is quite happy not to come in if we don’t want him to, but at least he’s told us. All our other friends have had both jabs, we know because they tell us. I don’t think it’s too difficult to do that out of respect.
Do you let your friend in your house that hasn't had a jab?
Yes as we both live in the same rural village with no cases, he’s also building his own house and doesn’t go anywhere, he hates towns.

Why don’t you think it’s right that you tell your friends about your non vaccine..?
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Post by mgrlane » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:36 pm

john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm Why don’t you think it’s right that you tell your friends about your non vaccine..?
If a friend asks me then I am not going to not tell them but I do think it's non of my business your (or their) vaccination status.

Lets face it- everyone is spreading it and it's very marginal the efficiency of the "jab" in preventing people passing it on. I would be more concerned of my "city rat" friends who live in apartment blocks and shared offices coming over that were double vaccinated than another hermit like me who is unvaccinated and works from home.

I am interested to see where it stops in terms of your right to know someones medical history- I did ask you if felt like you needed to know if your mates had a flu jab? Kills alot of people each year so knowing that they have had one might help protect you?

I am not trying to pick at you, it's really interesting hearing other views on the subject.

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Post by john-e89 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:44 pm

mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:36 pm
john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm Why don’t you think it’s right that you tell your friends about your non vaccine..?
If a friend asks me then I am not going to not tell them but I do think it's non of my business your (or their) vaccination status.

Lets face it- everyone is spreading it and it's very marginal the efficiency of the "jab" in preventing people passing it on. I would be more concerned of my "city rat" friends who live in apartment blocks and shared offices coming over that were double vaccinated than another hermit like me who is unvaccinated and works from home.

I am interested to see where it stops in terms of your right to know someones medical history- I did ask you if felt like you needed to know if your mates had a flu jab? Kills alot of people each year so knowing that they have had one might help protect you?

I am not trying to pick at you, it's really interesting hearing other views on the subject.
No picking even thought of.

There’s a huge difference in knowing people's medical history which of course is private unless related through choice. Kidney failure, or liver damage for eg, doesn’t have any transmission, so who needs to know..? I don’t have to go into the differences between flu and Covid with you so no need. My own view is if you’re going to someone’s house then I think it’s only fair to tell them whether you’re/ me/whoever is vaccinated or not, it’s simply a respect thing as this virus is having catastrophic effects as you know. Just my view.
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Post by mgrlane » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm

john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:44 pm My own view is if you’re going to someone’s house then I think it’s only fair to tell them whether you’re/ me/whoever is vaccinated or not, it’s simply a respect thing as this virus is having catastrophic effects as you know. Just my view.
I could possibly see a case for saying if you have had covid or not (there are very few re-infections after you have built natural immunity) but personally I don't see the jabbers as any less risk marginally than the un-jabbers.

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Post by john-e89 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:56 pm

mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm
john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:44 pm My own view is if you’re going to someone’s house then I think it’s only fair to tell them whether you’re/ me/whoever is vaccinated or not, it’s simply a respect thing as this virus is having catastrophic effects as you know. Just my view.
I could possibly see a case for saying if you have had covid or not (there are very few re-infections after you have built natural immunity) but personally I don't see the jabbers as any less risk marginally than the un-jabbers.
I don’t know the current levels of jabbers transmitting to un- jabbers tbh, only that it’s less but put that to one side. Surely it’s up to the house owners to choose wether they let you in or not…? Not telling them doesn’t give them a choice in their own home.
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Post by Nictrix » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:31 pm

john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:56 pm
mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm
john-e89 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:44 pm My own view is if you’re going to someone’s house then I think it’s only fair to tell them whether you’re/ me/whoever is vaccinated or not, it’s simply a respect thing as this virus is having catastrophic effects as you know. Just my view.
I could possibly see a case for saying if you have had covid or not (there are very few re-infections after you have built natural immunity) but personally I don't see the jabbers as any less risk marginally than the un-jabbers.
I don’t know the current levels of jabbers transmitting to un- jabbers tbh, only that it’s less but put that to one side. Surely it’s up to the house owners to choose wether they let you in or not…? Not telling them doesn’t give them a choice in their own home.
If there are workmen coming to your house do you ask them if they have been vaccinated?
Would you turn them away if they hadnt, or would it depend on whether the job you needed done was desperate or not?
Can you believe a stranger to tell the truth whether they have had the jabs or not if it potentially stops them doing the job and losing money ?
Where would somebody draw the line?
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Post by john-e89 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:41 pm

I don’t have workmen in the house I do it all myself.

I think now covid is here to stay if a workman hasn’t had the jab with a cert then he can’t be surprised if he gets turned away, that’s just how life is going to be.
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Post by sp3ctre » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:47 pm

As I said, if I am vaccinated I don’t mind being around unvaccinated people, that’s not the problem. If I had a vulnerable person in the house then yes I would demand to know (or refuse entry if they don’t want to divulge).

Sorry, but I don’t think the amount of people with side effects is anywhere near the amount of people with covid and long covid, and all the people not attending appointments and operations because of how covid is affecting the NHS.

There seems to be an echo chamber of social media at the moment and those banging on about side effects are only looking at the data they want to.
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Post by john-e89 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:51 pm

I don’t mind either, my point was some will and I think it’s only fair to let them know or not If you’re going in their house, especially friends.
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Post by TitanTim » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:17 pm

I wonder if unvacinated peeps who have issue declaring their vacinated status is because they feel ever so slightly embarrassed or a pang of guilt.

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Post by sp3ctre » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 pm

TitanTim wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:17 pm I wonder if unvacinated peeps who have issue declaring their vacinated status is because they feel ever so slightly embarrassed or a pang of guilt.

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Doubt it somehow…
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Post by mgrlane » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:24 pm

TitanTim wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:17 pm I wonder if unvacinated peeps who have issue declaring their vacinated status is because they feel ever so slightly embarrassed or a pang of guilt.

Tim.
Genuine question.

What is there to feel guilty about?

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Post by sp3ctre » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:27 pm

mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:24 pm
TitanTim wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:17 pm I wonder if unvacinated peeps who have issue declaring their vacinated status is because they feel ever so slightly embarrassed or a pang of guilt.

Tim.
Genuine question.

What is there to feel guilty about?
In my opinion, potentially taking up needed ICU beds with unnecessary covid.
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Post by mgrlane » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:30 pm

sp3ctre wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:27 pm
mgrlane wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:24 pm
TitanTim wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:17 pm I wonder if unvacinated peeps who have issue declaring their vacinated status is because they feel ever so slightly embarrassed or a pang of guilt.

Tim.
Genuine question.

What is there to feel guilty about?
In my opinion, potentially taking up needed ICU beds with unnecessary covid.
Na.

I can't remember the last hospital appointment I had or the last time I went to the doctor's.
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