Anyone following the Chauvin trial?

mr.tourette · Post by **mr.tourette** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:20 am

I've not really followed this but I had seen that the cop has pleaded not guilty to murder and manslaughter. Surely by definition he has at least committed manslaughter, I appreciate he was a big lad with a history but how much damage can you do with your hands cuffed behind your back that necessitates further force, if he was following his training then his training wasn't suitable

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:05 am

mr.tourette wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:20 am I've not really followed this but I had seen that the cop has pleaded not guilty to murder and manslaughter. Surely by definition he has at least committed manslaughter, I appreciate he was a big lad with a history but how much damage can you do with your hands cuffed behind your back that necessitates further force, if he was following his training then his training wasn't suitable

Thats really the only one that they have any chance of being able to get a conviction on imo. As per UK police, the US police are responsible for the welfare of those under arrest, however, if that person is basically walking dead (in the sense that the volume of drugs was already so much that it is a matter of time before death) then the police cant be held responsible for that, BUT, they obviously do have to provide what ever medical care they can. There is also the element of restraining someone so that they do not hurt themselves, when you have someone on a cocktail of drugs and jiggling about again responsible for their welfare so if they smash their teeth into the ground that's on the cops as well!

The whole thing is a big mass

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:45 pm

mr.tourette wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:20 am I've not really followed this but I had seen that the cop has pleaded not guilty to murder and manslaughter. Surely by definition he has at least committed manslaughter, I appreciate he was a big lad with a history but how much damage can you do with your hands cuffed behind your back that necessitates further force, if he was following his training then his training wasn't suitable

Sometimes keeping a person immobilised is to protect them from themselves and the damage they can do by thrashing about even when cuffed.

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:00 am

Colour me surprised

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:47 am

Day 7 was a very damaging day for the prosecution, the cross examination of the prosecutions own witnesses done serious damage to their case,

https://vimeo.com/533656148

Another of the prosecutions witnesses, on cross examination she also done serious damage to the case of the state, he testimony was so damaging the defence has now asked her to testify as part of their evidence at a later date.
https://vimeo.com/533713810
https://vimeo.com/533715217

AnilS · Post by **AnilS** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 pm

Guilty on all counts.

Pondrew · Post by **Pondrew** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:16 pm

AnilS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 pm Guilty on all counts.

There's a surprise

My guess is he will be shipped off to a "nice" prison to hopefully be forgotten about.

AnilS · Post by **AnilS** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:23 pm

Sentencing in 8 weeks.

Denied bail so straight to prison.

8 weeks is going to be a long time.

bellamor · Post by **bellamor** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:49 am

Yup, and I am so happy that justice prevailed at the end of the day. It took almost a year to end the issue.

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:21 am

That's not the end by a long shot, the Judge all but confirmed that the absolute stupidity of Maxine Waters will give very good grounds for a mis-trial on appeal, add to that the threats to the Jury, riots etc. This is faaaaar from over.

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:29 am

Also the state is already going after the other cops that were there, they are being charged with "aiding and abetting" Chauvin.
All with the backdrop of driveby shootings on the national guard, ongoing riots and Dems like AOC saying that this "isnt justice" effectively pouring fuel on the fire

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:23 pm

This ain't over yet. Just hope they can keep him alive in jail while they wait for the inevitable retrial.

The man has a huge target on his back.

ronk · Post by **ronk** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:53 pm

Nanu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:23 pm This ain't over yet. Just hope they can keep him alive in jail while they wait for the inevitable retrial.

The man has a huge target on his back.

Agreed, I don't fancy his chances whatsoever!

Flyingfifer · Post by **Flyingfifer** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:54 pm

Nanu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:23 pm This ain't over yet. Just hope they can keep him alive in jail while they wait for the inevitable retrial.

The man has a huge target on his back.

100%, apparently Biden's statement about "the right decision" being guilty was before they were sequestered as well

Pondrew · Post by **Pondrew** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:33 pm

Flyingfifer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:54 pm 100%, apparently Biden's statement about "the right decision" being guilty was before they were sequestered as well

Notice the trial didn't happen until Joe got into the whitehouse.

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