Slip Roads

[DR-Z]

In France, on the Autoroutes, there's a rule you need to know. If you're going much faster than other traffic and come up behind a slower vehicle in the outside lane, say a car overtaking a lorry, the car is supposed to brake and pull in behind the lorry to let you pass. If it doesn't pull over, you stick your left hand indicator on and tailgate the car, at no more than 5m behind, until it pulls over. They teach this in French driving schools.

[Jembo]

In Europe it’s the law to ‘make room’ for traffic joining from the slip road....

Not in Germany and Netherlands, so which European country has the rule?
I ask as I’m also driving thro Switzerland and Italy at the end of the month. Just hope it’s neither of those two countries!

I drive in France & Germany quite a bit - I don’t have their Highway Code equivalent to cite but been told on many occasions by Germans... when discussing the obsession Belgium drivers have on pulling out at a slower speed into the fast lane millimetres in front of you ... & they know they do it on purpose... that the subject of slip roads often comes up.

I’m going there this Saturday so I’ll get them to show me

[obewan]

since when has cutting the corner when turning right become a thing? Apparently its normal around here to turn right into the lane of oncoming traffic.. boils my piss

Sooo true, I get this at the end of the road where I live all the time

And another thing: At a nearby tee junction cars giving way and turning right sit in the middle of the carriageway meaning I can't filter to the left There's plenty of room for 2 cars if they would only get over to where they should be

[enuff_zed]

The wife was on the M6 somewhere near Birmingham. Luckily all 3 lanes were crawling at about 45mph.
Some numpty threw himself out into the traffic from a slip road. No-one had anywhere to go, so the left lane veered to the right, the middle lane took avoiding action and wifey, in the outside lane, went rattling down the armco. Luckily she hit it perfectly side on and didn't catch on any projections, so she stayed on the central reservation.
I suspect her company car training in an Evora whilst she was at Lotus probably helped a bit too.

The whole right side of her car was totalled.

Saddest part, not a single person stopped! They all kept veering round her and she was stuck there for ages before she could get it across to the hard shoulder.

The roads are inhabited by self-centred, ignorant morons (present company excepted of course!)

[mr.tourette]

since when has cutting the corner when turning right become a thing? Apparently its normal around here to turn right into the lane of oncoming traffic.. boils my piss

Sooo true, I get this at the end of the road where I live all the time

And another thing: At a nearby tee junction cars giving way and turning right sit in the middle of the carriageway meaning I can't filter to the left There's plenty of room for 2 cars if they would only get over to where they should be

Haha..yep that one too..twats the lot of em

[Sidewaze Samm]

stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway

That's something that most just can't do. Great big white arrows on the road pointing straight ahead, as the two lanes become three, but the new inside lane is empty - cos they're bleedin blind, stupid or both !!

[enuff_zed]

stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway

That's something that most just can't do. Great big white arrows on the road pointing straight ahead, as the two lanes become three, but the new inside lane is empty - cos they're bleedin blind, stupid or both !!

Or have spotted a lorry three miles ahead and don't want to be boxed in!

[ben g]

ive had people raging at me when i havent moved lanes because I cant due to traffic and they dont know how to adjust their speed to join safely.. the roads are populated by utter morons these days... and another one.. since when has cutting the corner when turning right become a thing? Apparently its normal around here to turn right into the lane of oncoming traffic.. boils my piss

I usually make a point of sitting right over to the right side of my lane when turning left out of a local T junction, which everyone likes to cut across. The amount of times I've been pulling up to it and had a huge great suv almost take my front end off is ridiculous! It seems no one sees lanes as a thing these days

[ben g]

In France, on the Autoroutes, there's a rule you need to know. If you're going much faster than other traffic and come up behind a slower vehicle in the outside lane, say a car overtaking a lorry, the car is supposed to brake and pull in behind the lorry to let you pass. If it doesn't pull over, you stick your left hand indicator on and tailgate the car, at no more than 5m behind, until it pulls over. They teach this in French driving schools.

Down here, someone else would squeeze in that 5m gap

[BeeEmm]

Crap drivers, morons, idiots. There's a lot of tension here. If you cannot change lanes to accommodate someone joining from a slip road, either accelerate to pass the point they would join safely and have them join behind you, or ease of the accelerator to allow them to join in front. If you see them as early as you should, there should not be any need to brake. You will feel more relaxed. Or is there a case of these bastards are not going to push in front of me and I am not going to slow down for them! If you feel aggressive because of what you think someone has deliberately done to you, you have just become an aggressive driver. Not a good person to be. If you talk about something that happened while driving, more than an hour afterwards, it means that you were stressed. Life is not too short, life is long, but not with high stress levels. If you really want to know who is correct and who isn't, take some advanced road driving lessons, please.

[Vonlipvig]

Crap drivers, morons, idiots. There's a lot of tension here. If you cannot change lanes to accommodate someone joining from a slip road, either accelerate to pass the point they would join safely and have them join behind you, or ease of the accelerator to allow them to join in front. If you see them as early as you should, there should not be any need to brake. You will feel more relaxed. Or is there a case of these bastards are not going to push in front of me and I am not going to slow down for them! If you feel aggressive because of what you think someone has deliberately done to you, you have just become an aggressive driver. Not a good person to be. If you talk about something that happened while driving, more than an hour afterwards, it means that you were stressed. Life is not too short, life is long, but not with high stress levels. If you really want to know who is correct and who isn't, take some advanced road driving lessons, please.

Oh dont get me wrong, I do just as you said. Give people room, let them out move over etc. Being angry in the car is just asking for trouble. Doesn't stop me thinking anyone can be an idiot and keeping an eye out expecting something stupid though

[BeeEmm]

Doesn't stop me thinking anyone can be an idiot and keeping an eye out expecting something stupid though

This is another way of saying good awareness and anticipation. Well done Vonlipvig.

[enuff_zed]

Doesn't stop me thinking anyone can be an idiot and keeping an eye out expecting something stupid though

This is another way of saying good awareness and anticipation. Well done Vonlipvig.

Valid point but not always possible. Ask my wife.

[mr.tourette]

Crap drivers, morons, idiots. There's a lot of tension here. If you cannot change lanes to accommodate someone joining from a slip road, either accelerate to pass the point they would join safely and have them join behind you, or ease of the accelerator to allow them to join in front. If you see them as early as you should, there should not be any need to brake. You will feel more relaxed. Or is there a case of these bastards are not going to push in front of me and I am not going to slow down for them! If you feel aggressive because of what you think someone has deliberately done to you, you have just become an aggressive driver. Not a good person to be. If you talk about something that happened while driving, more than an hour afterwards, it means that you were stressed. Life is not too short, life is long, but not with high stress levels. If you really want to know who is correct and who isn't, take some advanced road driving lessons, please.

I think the point op is making which is completely valid is its up to the people joining the carriageway to adjust their speed to join correctly not the other way around, I'm sure most of us move over whenever it is safe to do so as well as backing off or accelerating when necessary, however when you drive regularly in rush hours with ever increasing traffic you need EVERYONE to be spatially aware as well as courteous ...I dont see any aggression in these comments just frustration at falling standards...your comments however I find pretty condescending, my 21 year old nephew was killed by someone driving dangerously, try telling him lifes not too short .. I'm sure most of us have been driving long enough and safely enough not to need a driving lesson from the forum

[BeeEmm]

I'm sure most of us have been driving long enough and safely enough not to need a driving lesson from the forum

You will no doubt have the backing of many people here (safe ground) but I read comments most days here on poor driving standards and it is the reaction or surprise of the writer that puts some of them in a poor position. You are right though, this is not a driving forum and no one has asked a question. Apologies for making you feel that you have nothing more to learn with regards to driving.