Philips accident

[firebobby]

Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!!

Don't know John, what did you do before the war

Pastry speak to your ‘oppo will you...he’s out of control....

Angry old man you

[Jembo]

I recon he took one for the team to distract everyone from Brexit

[ronk]

A retest after every every 10 years of holding a driving licence could raise the standard of driving.

Theory and practical.

There are not that many jobs where competence is checked only once at the beginning and then never really check again now the roads are so busy and driving standards slipping downwards this could be a good thing.

In 2014 there was 45.5 million licenses in the uk - your full test every ten years would mean an extra 4.55 million tests a year!
Or 12.5k tests a day every day of the year! I don’t think it could ever happen.

[Crazy Harry]

Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect

Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!!

Did the same as everyone else I expect - which is kind of the problem now. Banks have closed branches (12 miles to the nearest branch of my bank now - not even in my nearest market town) and firms insist on sending details/confirmations and purchase transaction codes by SMS the world is internet and smart phone but not everyone has access - if fact there was more coverage in rural India when I visited the other year than in many locations I've been to in the UK. Coverage in the UK seams to be driven by covering a percentage of population - easier in urban areas or along trunk routes rather than in the sticks. My point is an increasing part of managing to keep going in a rural area is being able to keep driving. Personally I'd rather choose to drive with 80+ year people on the roads who are most likely insured; slow and perhaps over cautious in most cases than take my chances with the drunk; drugged up or uninsured lot I have no choice about now.

[NickDE]

A retest after every every 10 years of holding a driving licence could raise the standard of driving.

Theory and practical.

There are not that many jobs where competence is checked only once at the beginning and then never really check again now the roads are so busy and driving standards slipping downwards this could be a good thing.

In 2014 there was 45.5 million licenses in the uk - your full test every ten years would mean an extra 4.55 million tests a year!
Or 12.5k tests a day every day of the year! I don’t think it could ever happen.

We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.

[BeeEmm]

We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.

We could start with the group that causes the most serious and fatal accidents, the 17-24 year olds. Oh bugger, they recently past a test. To retest drivers every few years would require a change in law voted for in parliament. The MPs voting would also have to resit tests. Do you honestly think they would vote for that?

[Jembo]

We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.

We could start with the group that causes the most serious and fatal accidents, the 17-24 year olds. Oh bugger, they recently past a test. To retest drivers every few years would require a change in law voted for in parliament. The MPs voting would also have to resit tests. Do you honestly think they would vote for that?

... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.

[BeeEmm]

... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.

A court could order that, yes. It happens now. My view is stronger, I believe that if you are involved in an accident, in many cases you could have avoided it, even if the law says not. As an example could the driver who collided with Phillip's car anticipated better that he was about to emerge in front of her, if her driving was at a higher standard? It is all about driver training and awareness and anticipation. If she was driving with dipped headlights, could he have seen her and waited?

[Nictrix]

... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.

A court could order that, yes. It happens now. My view is stronger, I believe that if you are involved in an accident, in many cases you could have avoided it, even if the law says not. As an example could the driver who collided with Phillip's car anticipated better that he was about to emerge in front of her, if her driving was at a higher standard? It is all about driver training and awareness and anticipation. If she was driving with dipped headlights, could he have seen her and waited?

That didn't take long to start blaming the other driver

[BeeEmm]

It is not blame, it is a hypothetical case to improve driver awareness and avoid accidents. The clue is in the words 'As an example.' I anticipated your comments, although surprised that it came from someone who may be a motorcyclist.

[Nictrix]

It is not blame, it is a hypothetical case to improve driver awareness and avoid accidents. The clue is in the words 'As an example.' I anticipated your comments, although surprised that it came from someone who may be a motorcyclist.

I was kidding. You are right though, how many times has there been an accident that could have been avoided if the innocent party made a better effort to avoid it..
As a biker you have to look out for these type of things as you don't have the luxury of a metal box around you to protect you.

[BeeEmm]

I was kidding. You are right though, how many times has there been an accident that could have been avoided if the innocent party made a better effort to avoid it..
As a biker you have to look out for these type of things as you don't have the luxury of a metal box around you to protect you.

[Dav the wheel nut]

The MPs voting would also have to resit tests. Do you honestly think they would vote for that?

Diane Abbott couldn't do a two piece jigsaw even if she had a picture on the box never mind pass any other test

[road warrior]

DONT you think there is enough legislation already ? in a world where we want to punish everybody else for everything else that everybody else does ? in the high and mighty mentality we seem to have developed, punish prosecute ban ect. Are we forgetting this was an accident ? do we really want to punish everything and everyone that dares to step out or inconvenience us in some way ? are you all now perfect ?
In a world where we praise nonentities like the morons in the likes of TOWIE, and feel perfect enough to pass judgment on someone you have never met and will in all likelyhood will never meet ?
Are you annoyed because he is royalty and you feel he has a better life than you ? or are you annoyed because he is still breathing ? or maybe because he has a range rover. None of which are really hanging offences, yet anyway..

[BeeEmm]

DONT you think there is enough legislation already ? in a world where we want to punish everybody else for everything else that everybody else does ? in the high and mighty mentality we seem to have developed, punish prosecute ban ect. Are we forgetting this was an accident ? do we really want to punish everything and everyone that dares to step out or inconvenience us in some way ? are you all now perfect ?
In a world where we praise nonentities like the morons in the likes of TOWIE, and feel perfect enough to pass judgment on someone you have never met and will in all likelyhood will never meet ?
Are you annoyed because he is royalty and you feel he has a better life than you ? or are you annoyed because he is still breathing ? or maybe because he has a range rover. None of which are really hanging offences, yet anyway..

Calm down, calm down. There is no such thing as 'an accident', even the Police now refer to 'traffic incidents', not accidents. Accidents don't just happen, they are caused. I am in favour of more driver training to cut down on the number of fatalities on British roads, not necessary retesting.