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by road warrior » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:57 am
nah im play devils advocate as usual Ronk, if they were priced to match i would have one, but here is the thing.. the original argument was " they are made for media/ graphics ect. but it was hype than and its hype now. nothing apple has produced has ever actually been better. when i was a dtp man i was sent to company to make a brochure for them on their machines. I was given a mac - the mac provided could not physically run its own mac software, and so after a week i went home and brought in my own computer - a windows pc
They just work.. another marketing thing. they worked because apple allowed nobody to write programs or or even open the case, and while millions of people wrote 1000's of programs for the ibm pc, nothing got close to dribbling amount of programs privided by apple approved sources. and what happened ? as above .. it would not run because it didntr have enough memory, unlike the ibm pc that would run it regardless and created virtual ram from the hard drive ( which apple would not allow ...)
i quote..
Jobs stated that because "customization really is mostly software now ... most of the options in other computers are in Mac", unlike the Apple II the Macintosh 128K did not need slots, which he described as costly and requiring larger size and more power.[15] It was not upgradable by the user and only Apple service centers were permitted to open the case.[16] All accessories were external, such as the MacCharlie that added IBM PC compatibility.[17] There was no provision for adding internal storage, more RAM or any upgrade cards, however some of the Macintosh engineers objected to Jobs's ideas and secretly developed workarounds for them. As an example, the Macintosh was supposed to have only 17 address lines on the motherboard, enough to support 128k of system RAM, but the design team added an additional two address lines without Jobs's knowledge, making it possible to expand the computer to 512k, although the actual act of upgrading system RAM was difficult and required piggybacking additional RAM chips overtop the onboard 4164 chips. In September 1984, after months of complaints over the Mac's inadequate RAM, Apple released an official 512k machine. Although this had always been planned from the beginning, Steve Jobs maintained if the user desired more RAM than the Mac 128 provided, he should simply pay extra money for a Mac 512 rather than upgrade the computer himself. When the Mac 512 was released, Apple rebranded the original model as "Macintosh 128k" and modified the motherboard to allow easier RAM upgrades. Improving on the hard-wired RAM thus required a motherboard replacement (which was priced similarly to a new computer), or a third-party chip replacement upgrade, which was not only expensive but would void Apple's warranty. The difficulty of fitting software into its limited free memory, coupled with the new interface and event driven programming model, discouraged software vendors from supporting it, leaving the 128K with a relatively small software library. Whereas the Macintosh Plus, and to a lesser extent the Macintosh 512K, are compatible with much later software, the 128K is limited to specially crafted programs. A stock Mac 128K with the original 64K ROM is neither compatible with Apple's external 800 KB drive with HFS nor with Apple's Hard Disk 20. A Mac 128K that has been upgraded with the newer 128K ROM (called a Macintosh 128Ke) can use internal and external 800 KB drives with HFS, as well as the HD20. Both can print on an AppleShare network, but neither can do file sharing because of their limited RAM.
and this was a full 5 YEARS after the ibm pc was invented and for sale in 1979 had upgradable slots for memory and expansion cards and hard drives. , and jobs thought 128 soldered onto the board would be sufficient.. nope..
If you ever think I'm off my rocker.. Just put me back in it and walk away... It's the kindest thing
My wife says I never listen - or something like that.
gone but not forgotton -Mean Steve - made a sound like a bear with his nuts in a trap.
I understand some years ago apple made their over priced boxes windows compatible in an effort to get some people to buy them..
not seen that since windows 3.1 
