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Post by mr wilks » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:36 pm

gov wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:39 am
I don't pay any tax for my zed - cause' I aint got one :( :( - really must find another one for this summer :lol:
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Post by ronk » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:32 pm

pvr wrote:
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We need some European engineers in the U.K. to teach them how to make proper roads.

Amen to that!
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Post by Nanu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:50 pm

It's about time this was scrapped and put onto fuel then the more you use the roads the more you pay.
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Post by ronk » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:52 pm

I’d have been stuffed buying the 335 one year and the Z the year after :(
Both over £40k
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Post by ronk » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:23 pm

Nanu wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:50 pm
It's about time this was scrapped and put onto fuel then the more you use the roads the more you pay.
I think over £3 of the £5 a gallon we pay is already just tax.
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Post by Stuartt » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:27 pm

If I’m honest I was pleasantly surprised that my 35i was £305.
Admittedly it’s still a lot but nowhere near ///M territory

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Post by RickRob » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:33 pm

I contribute over £1,200 a year in Road Tax. I'd be Iinterested in what they do in other countries. The only equitable way is to put it all on fuel.
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Post by Havard » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:43 pm

Yep, it's a joke but a s petrol head a necessary evil.

M is £535 (3k mile max), but only did 1500 last year, including 700 in two trips.
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Post by Zeld4 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:57 am

I think road tax is a bargain! Every time you fill your car up with fuel it’s 40 odd quid in duty and VAT.
It’s just a shame that road tax is no longer ring fenced, I think it’s under 20 percent of it that actually goes on the up keep of the roads.

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Post by Zeld4 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:59 am

RickRob wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:33 pm
I contribute over £1,200 a year in Road Tax. I'd be Iinterested in what they do in other countries. The only equitable way is to put it all on fuel.
We already pay roughly 70 percent tax on fuel. Road tax is now just a way of raising revenue. But we get off pretty lightly compared to a lot of other European
countries.

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Post by enzed4 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:11 am

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Post by enzed4 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:24 am

RickRob wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:33 pm
I contribute over £1,200 a year in Road Tax. I'd be Iinterested in what they do in other countries. The only equitable way is to put it all on fuel.
Here diesel is cheaper than petrol at the pump as it is taxed on a 'road user charge' tax, ie, done on mileage. This has owners howling as their Diesel golf is taxed the same as much larger vehicles - guess which ones cause more damage to the roads though...
Petrol is taxed at the pump and that tax goes to whatever the govt decides is best for us (with actual road repair somewhere at the bottom of the list I think :roll: ). That's why it costs me £5.83 /gal to fill with 98RON.
On the up side, there's no other tax unless you count annual registration (about £52).
This doesn't count our version of MOT or insurance.
The average age of vehicles in NZ is 10 years apparently.
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Post by Zeld4 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:50 am

ben g wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:05 pm
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Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am
Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
It's an emissions tax. It has nothing to do with filling potholes in.

It basically goes into one big pot and the government decides what it gets spent on.

It's only Road tax in that it needs to be paid if you wish to drive or store your vehicle on the road. It's not a 'pay it and we fix roads' tax. I really wish people would stop thinking of it in that way, because it begins to get boring when people constantly moan about paying road tax and then linking it with the rubbish standard of our roads.
It is a road tax, it’s just calculated on emmisioms these days. It used to be ring fenced for road expenditure but not any more. If you research the origins of this tax you will see this. So you are actullay totally wrong.

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Post by ben g » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:37 am

Zeld4 wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:50 am
ben g wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:05 pm
firebobby wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am
Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
It's an emissions tax. It has nothing to do with filling potholes in.

It basically goes into one big pot and the government decides what it gets spent on.

It's only Road tax in that it needs to be paid if you wish to drive or store your vehicle on the road. It's not a 'pay it and we fix roads' tax. I really wish people would stop thinking of it in that way, because it begins to get boring when people constantly moan about paying road tax and then linking it with the rubbish standard of our roads.
It is a road tax, it’s just calculated on emmisioms these days. It used to be ring fenced for road expenditure but not any more. If you research the origins of this tax you will see this. So you are actullay totally wrong.
You've completely contradicted yourself. It '' USED TO '' be for road expenditure.

We're talking about the here and now, not 80 odd years ago :lol:
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Post by firebobby » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:48 am

What ever it's called or used for, it's still a Pee take and worth a moan in my books :thumbsdown:
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