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Post by A1GSS » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:04 pm

Ducklakeview wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:34 pm
TitanTim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:29 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:22 pm Yup - And swapping the HD for an SSD made it fly..

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:D

Only slight pain is, you can't download windows 10 from the Microsoft site using Vista which is a bit of a pain :(

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There's a "workaround"

"IF" you need the accessibility features, you CAN still download windows 10 for free, fully licensed from here; https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessi ... s10upgrade

:D

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This is exactly what I suggested earlier but it does not support Vista. If you're starting from Windows 7 or above, all OK.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 pm

A1GSS wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:04 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:34 pm
TitanTim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:29 pm

:D

Only slight pain is, you can't download windows 10 from the Microsoft site using Vista which is a bit of a pain :(

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There's a "workaround"

"IF" you need the accessibility features, you CAN still download windows 10 for free, fully licensed from here; https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessi ... s10upgrade

:D

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This is exactly what I suggested earlier but it does not support Vista. If you're starting from Windows 7 or above, all OK.
Just create a bootable USB stick and do a clean install?

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Post by TitanTim » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:08 pm

Thanks that what I was going to do and get 10 on a bootable USB stick and do a clean install..... Hopefully.

Will teach me a lesson to upgrade Windows sooner rather than later, think I just got cheesed off with Windows updates so disabled them and just carried on with no updates :D

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Post by Twin Turbo » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:45 pm

Well I suspect Windows 10 will have issues, as the components of the laptop.

"As at work we have more issues with customers upgrading unsupported computers from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as the components do not support this OS"

If Windows 10 fails, install "https://linuxmint.com/download.php"

I had this on an 8 yr old PC with SSD drive £60 - and runs quicker than my 2 yr old Intell i7 with 16GB ram and SSD drive

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Post by A1GSS » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:26 pm

If you want to go Linux (and have the necessary strength of purpose to see it through) then another vote here for Mint. Very good.
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Post by A1GSS » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:26 pm

Also +1 *(or +1000) for an SSD upgrade. Transformational.
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Post by TitanTim » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:10 pm

Thanks again guys, I had a Linux Laptop some years back and was great, but then they were withdrawn from sale so that was that.

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Post by TitanTim » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:26 pm

OK so I have a new copy of Windows 10 on a USB stick but thought it would make sense to replace the RAM and HDD before installing.

My current HDD is 500GB and I think it might be a Sata 2 and I was going to replace it with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB which is a Sata 3. Will this be OK and should I see an improvement in speed? I'm guessing I won't see full speed if the the laptop is a Sata 2?

I'm going to upgrade the memory from 4gb to 8gb. It currently has x2 2mb modules and will replace each with a 4mb, I guess this will improve things.

Should I see any decent improvements? Its going to cost around 200 quid for the parts so really need to know if it will be worthwhile to do this?

Thanks again,

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Post by Vonlipvig » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:17 am

TitanTim wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:26 pm OK so I have a new copy of Windows 10 on a USB stick but thought it would make sense to replace the RAM and HDD before installing.

My current HDD is 500GB and I think it might be a Sata 2 and I was going to replace it with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB which is a Sata 3. Will this be OK and should I see an improvement in speed? I'm guessing I won't see full speed if the the laptop is a Sata 2?

I'm going to upgrade the memory from 4gb to 8gb. It currently has x2 2mb modules and will replace each with a 4mb, I guess this will improve things.

Should I see any decent improvements? Its going to cost around 200 quid for the parts so really need to know if it will be worthwhile to do this?

Thanks again,

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SSD defiantly see an improvement, even if your board is SATA2 the new drive will be fine. Boot times will be a breath of fresh air :)

For the memory, you need to make sure it is a compatible speed and type with the mainboard, also that the board will handle 8gb, most do these days. Also if you are going for 8gb, make sure you install the 64bit version of windows 10 to make the most use of it, 32bit can't use that much
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Post by TitanTim » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:25 pm

Vonlipvig wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:17 am
TitanTim wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:26 pm OK so I have a new copy of Windows 10 on a USB stick but thought it would make sense to replace the RAM and HDD before installing.

My current HDD is 500GB and I think it might be a Sata 2 and I was going to replace it with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB which is a Sata 3. Will this be OK and should I see an improvement in speed? I'm guessing I won't see full speed if the the laptop is a Sata 2?

I'm going to upgrade the memory from 4gb to 8gb. It currently has x2 2mb modules and will replace each with a 4mb, I guess this will improve things.

Should I see any decent improvements? Its going to cost around 200 quid for the parts so really need to know if it will be worthwhile to do this?

Thanks again,

Tim.
SSD defiantly see an improvement, even if your board is SATA2 the new drive will be fine. Boot times will be a breath of fresh air :)

For the memory, you need to make sure it is a compatible speed and type with the mainboard, also that the board will handle 8gb, most do these days. Also if you are going for 8gb, make sure you install the 64bit version of windows 10 to make the most use of it, 32bit can't use that much
Many thanks again, I've found an online company that do the Correct RAM sets for my Dell model so should be ok.

However the other half casually informed today she's me ordered me a replacement Dell :o :?

I'm still going to get the bits and have a crack with my current one though :)

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Post by DOOM » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:59 pm

Buckz wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:36 amYup windows 10 will speed it up.. but also see it you can pop an SSD drive in there. That'll transform the performance of it.
Indeed!! :thumbsup:
Despite Windows 10 acting a bit strange with SSDs at times, it's the best you can do to revive / continue working with an older PC.
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Post by original guvnor » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:48 am

I presume that if you purchased the XPS you had/have an interest in PC gaming?

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Post by TitanTim » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:05 pm

original guvnor wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:48 amI presume that if you purchased the XPS you had/have an interest in PC gaming?
Its not for gaming no, it will be a jack of all trades laptop, a bit of graphics work thrown in from time to time and instead of a desktop. My current XPS Studio has been brilliant over the past 9 years, can't fault it so have relented :) and gone for another which is the XPS 15 9560 with the 4k screen. I'd been keeping an eye on laptops generally for months but could never decide whether to move away from Windows and try and Macbook Pro. However been disapointed with reviews on the Macbooks of late with the lack of ports, out if date hardware used in them, supposidly and the ridiculous price for them for what you get. I'd narrowed it down to the Macbbook Pro 15, HP Spectre X360 and the Dell but kept coming back to the Dell. Still pricey but I'm not expecting to replace it for years to come.

I'm still getting the upgrade parts for my current XPS and will be interested to see how it performs. Its a shame I can't upgrade the graphics card which is the weak point but I think its soldered to the motherboard.

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Post by ChrisN53 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:17 pm

Ah I don't think the XPS 15 is configured to have the 8th gen i7 processor, is it?

I recently bought an XPS 13 with the QHD touch display - it is very, very nice.

Enjoy!

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Post by TitanTim » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:47 pm

ChrisN53 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:17 pmAh I don't think the XPS 15 is configured to have the 8th gen i7 processor, is it?

I recently bought an XPS 13 with the QHD touch display - it is very, very nice.

Enjoy!
Hi Chris,

Not as yet no, I think DELL will be releasing the XPS 9570 with the i8 processor sometime this year, mine has the i7. Received the laptop from DELL this arvo and just finished setting it up, very very nice and interesting to compare to my 9 year old XPS Studio 17, the 4K screen is lovely although the touch screen won't be used much :)

Only slight disappointment are the speakers which just don't sound as good as my old XPS but the aluminium and carbon fibre keyboard deck is cool.

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