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Was he talking BS
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Re: Was he talking BS
Surely it'd have been safer to sell you a non-runflat so that all 4 wheels were the same! I know I'd rather that than have one RF and 3 non-RF's (although in your case it is an emergency spare and not a permanent situation).
Don't rims designed for RF tyres have a slightly different shape which confuses some fitters - saying non-rf's won't fit when they will. (And that it's the other way around that doesn't work - RF's on a non-RF rim?)
Don't rims designed for RF tyres have a slightly different shape which confuses some fitters - saying non-rf's won't fit when they will. (And that it's the other way around that doesn't work - RF's on a non-RF rim?)
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I'd check...it only takes a quick call... don't go on peoples assumptions or assertions as the insurance company may consider it a 'modification'. I'm sure you don't need your insurance invalidating a claim because of this, if on the flip-side it bothers them at all. I've spoken with BMW directly on this topic and they have told me that the car was not designed to run on normal tyres, therefore any issues within warranty related to suspension may not be supported by them if non run flats were on the car. If BMW take this line, you can be sure the skimpy insurance companies would love to find it as an excuse not to pay out...
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Re: Was he talking BS
Even if it did invalidate my insurence (which i doubt) i dont think it was the fitters place to tell me what i can and cant have on my wheel.
As for BMW warrenty..its a 9 year old car so this hardly applies.
As for BMW warrenty..its a 9 year old car so this hardly applies.
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Re: Was he talking BS
Poor fitter- everybody thinks his opinion is worthless.
Which it is.
Which it is.
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Re: Was he talking BS
Quote hunter/cj10jeeper
Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.
If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...
Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS [/quote]
If that is true and they can only fit OEM why do they stock budget tyres?[/quote]
I meant OEM as in RFT for RFT, same size, ratio, weight and speed rating, etc. not brand....[/quote]
So if your Z had come originally with 17" wheels and you had fitted 18s your saying they wouldnt be allowd to fit tyres to them?[/quote]
I think you are over interpreting what cj is saying. He is referring ingeneral to liability with reference to non manufacturers spec.
Unfortunately most people and processes in this country are counterproductive and non common sensible. Frustrating as it is when we have to interact with such people who are unable to reason beyond "the computer says no" , from the point of view of the tyre fitter, doesn't know any better and might be restricted by a company policy guideline. Just deep breaths. . .
And smile. . .
Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.
If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...
Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS [/quote]
If that is true and they can only fit OEM why do they stock budget tyres?[/quote]
I meant OEM as in RFT for RFT, same size, ratio, weight and speed rating, etc. not brand....[/quote]
So if your Z had come originally with 17" wheels and you had fitted 18s your saying they wouldnt be allowd to fit tyres to them?[/quote]
I think you are over interpreting what cj is saying. He is referring ingeneral to liability with reference to non manufacturers spec.
Unfortunately most people and processes in this country are counterproductive and non common sensible. Frustrating as it is when we have to interact with such people who are unable to reason beyond "the computer says no" , from the point of view of the tyre fitter, doesn't know any better and might be restricted by a company policy guideline. Just deep breaths. . .
And smile. . .
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Re: Was he talking BS
Common sense.. whatever happened to it
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Re: Was he talking BS
It's not that common....Zed_Steve wrote:Common sense.. whatever happened to it
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So truecj10jeeper wrote:It's not that common....Zed_Steve wrote:Common sense.. whatever happened to it
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Re: Was he talking BS
No he would have because 18" is an OEM size. Technically he might have refused if you had 19"+?Hunter wrote:So if your Z had come originally with 17" wheels and you had fitted 18s your saying they wouldnt be allowd to fit tyres to them?
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Re: Was he talking BS
I had an MOT earlier this month with non RFTs - no probMRol wrote:I think at the beginning of this year cars fitted with runflat tyres as part of the origional car design will have to have runflat tyres to get through the MOT.
You do need to notify your insurers though, and I had to sign a disclaimer at the fitters that I had notified the insurance company. Many insurers just don't care (mine's Admiral and they didn't care). But other people have had a very slight premium increase upon notification.
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When I put my winters on with non RFT Direct Line didn't BT an eyelid, even though I said it twice to make sure the guy had heard me
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Re: Was he talking BS
National in Dunfermline fitted a non RFT for me no problem whatsoever, sounds like you got a by the book man going by is own book,
more commonly know as a tosser.
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Nosa wrote:National in Dunfermline fitted a non RFT for me no problem whatsoever, sounds like you got a by the book man going by is own book,
more commonly know as a tosser.
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You should have responded that you had no insurance to invalidate when he mentioned insurance...
Sorry not the most constructive comment, but agree with both arguments about National having to abide by their company policies and that also it's your choice as the consumer which tire you wish to purchase, I was once quoted by a main VW dealer that they wanted over a grand for replacing my whole exhaust because of a broken bracket, the chap was so honest he said that it was company policy to do so as they can't do repairs but have the replace, but said that I could take it to a local garage who could weld it for £50-60! Now that's what I call customer service!
Sorry not the most constructive comment, but agree with both arguments about National having to abide by their company policies and that also it's your choice as the consumer which tire you wish to purchase, I was once quoted by a main VW dealer that they wanted over a grand for replacing my whole exhaust because of a broken bracket, the chap was so honest he said that it was company policy to do so as they can't do repairs but have the replace, but said that I could take it to a local garage who could weld it for £50-60! Now that's what I call customer service!
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Re: Was he talking BS
Out of interest did you remember to re set the sensor? If you didn't I will come back on again after a few minutes even if you don't loose any pressure.
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