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Was he talking BS

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Was he talking BS

Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:53 am

Last week i was driving my car from Nottingham to Aberdeen when my tyre pressure light came on...i pulled into a service station at Perth and checked the tyre pressure on all four wheels and sure enough the drivers front was low so i topped it up and set off. Five miles down the road the sensor light came back on, so i had to drive about 30 miles on the runflat untill i got to Dundee and found a National tyre garage. Now let me explain that the tyre in question was the only wheel with a run flat tyre on it as i had replaced my tyres with non runflats but i had put the spare wheel i had with a rf on it back on the car a few days previously because my missus had slightly curbed my wheel and it was being repaired. So in short the car had 3 non run flats and one flat rf. Now when i asked the guy at National to replace the RF with a Non RF he refused telling me that it was not manufacures spec and would invalidate my insurance!!!! This was at 17.45 and i NEEDED the tyre on the car that night so i could catch my flight to work. He told me he had a rf in stock and a non rf that he would not fit...i asked for a price on the RF..£275 !!!!!! I declined and managed to find a place just around the corner that fitted me a non runflat for £70. At the end of the day its only a spare wheel i have for emergencys...but was the guy at National just being a KNOB???
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Was he talking BS

Post by Adamski » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:05 am

Yes. Talking total rubbish.

Not advised to run mixture of RFT and non RFT, but the guy at National clearly doesn't know how to do his job... (IMO of course ;) )

I had 4 non RFTs fitted to my car no problem...


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Was he talking BS

Post by Liam-O » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:05 am

IMO yes, he's not the insurance watchdog, normal cars don't have rft it's not the end of the world if you get a flat, the car isn going to fore you into the central reservation.
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:11 am

I think he just wanted to sell me the most expensive thing he could!!!
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by MRol » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:46 am

I think at the beginning of this year cars fitted with runflat tyres as part of the origional car design will have to have runflat tyres to get through the MOT.

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Post by Jembo » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:55 am

You were in a tight corner & lucky u had an option.

Suggest if u r ever faced with that again to get person to put it in writing, including a statement that you will get a FULL refund if it turns out the advice that they gave was incorrect, otherwise fit a NRF.

If u carry a tin of tyre repair weld, u should b just fine

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Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:10 am

Jembo wrote:You were in a tight corner & lucky u had an option.

Suggest if u r ever faced with that again to get person to put it in writing, including a statement that you will get a FULL refund if it turns out the advice that they gave was incorrect, otherwise fit a NRF.

If u carry a tin of tyre repair weld, u should b just fine
If he wouldnt fit a tyre i think the chances of me getting him to write something down would be quite slim. He was an ass..
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Bradders75 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:19 am

MRol wrote:I think at the beginning of this year cars fitted with runflat tyres as part of the origional car design will have to have runflat tyres to get through the MOT.
Not true mate. The Tyre Pressure Monitoring System has to be working correctly and is now part of the test but this doesn't need RFTs to function. My car sailed through the MOT on non-RFTs last week.
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:20 am

Bradders75 wrote:
MRol wrote:I think at the beginning of this year cars fitted with runflat tyres as part of the origional car design will have to have runflat tyres to get through the MOT.
Not true mate. The Tyre Pressure Monitoring System has to be working correctly and is now part of the test but this doesn't need RFTs to function. My car sailed through the MOT on non-RFTs last week.
How do they check this?
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Bradders75 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:23 am

Hunter wrote:
Bradders75 wrote:
MRol wrote:I think at the beginning of this year cars fitted with runflat tyres as part of the origional car design will have to have runflat tyres to get through the MOT.
Not true mate. The Tyre Pressure Monitoring System has to be working correctly and is now part of the test but this doesn't need RFTs to function. My car sailed through the MOT on non-RFTs last week.
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by cj10jeeper » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:31 am

Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.

If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...

Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS :)
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:47 am

cj10jeeper wrote:Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.

If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...

Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS :)
If that is true and they can only fit OEM why do they stock budget tyres?
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Half Colin » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:52 am

Yes, definitely talking BS.

Quote from the manual

"BMW recommends fitting only wheels and tyres that it has approved for your vehicle; otherwise, tyres of an appropriate nominal size but with impermissible manufacturing tolerances could make contact with the vehicle body and cause serious accidents."

Manufacturer's recommendations are just that recommendations not mandatory and he certainly can't comment on your insurance.
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by cj10jeeper » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:57 am

Hunter wrote:
cj10jeeper wrote:Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.

If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...

Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS :)
If that is true and they can only fit OEM why do they stock budget tyres?
I meant OEM as in RFT for RFT, same size, ratio, weight and speed rating, etc. not brand....
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Re: Was he talking BS

Post by Hunter » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:21 am

cj10jeeper wrote:
Hunter wrote:
cj10jeeper wrote:Problem is here that the tyre fitter is part of a national chain and while we all know non RFT's will fit and indeed be accepted by insurers, he's constrained to fit OEM type else in breach of his companies rules.

If you drove around the corner on a non RFT he'd fitted and crashed then guess who'd be held responsible by many in out litigious society...

Of course add to that that some tyre fitters are not top of the food chin and they get mixed up between fact, fiction, myth, policy and a bit of BS :)
If that is true and they can only fit OEM why do they stock budget tyres?
I meant OEM as in RFT for RFT, same size, ratio, weight and speed rating, etc. not brand....
So if your Z had come originally with 17" wheels and you had fitted 18s your saying they wouldnt be allowd to fit tyres to them?
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