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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
- R60BBA
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
I am considering getting a set of 18” 8.5 et35 for my Z4C.
Is anyone running a square-set up on their Z4C?
Pros and cons/general feedback over standard staggered set up would be much appreciated.
(My car is used 80% street, 20% track.)
Is anyone running a square-set up on their Z4C?
Pros and cons/general feedback over standard staggered set up would be much appreciated.
(My car is used 80% street, 20% track.)
Last edited by R60BBA on Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
What size would you being looking to run OP?
Think you may struggle on the front of a 3.0SI for a wider rim.
Think you may struggle on the front of a 3.0SI for a wider rim.
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
I just edited my initial post, please refer.
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
- Steve84N
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
8.5" ET35 is 18.4m further out than standard which is too much.
Aim for 12mm or less.
I got my setup squarer by going down to 245/40/18 on the rear and keeping 225/40/18 on the front as 235/40/18 rubbed lowered on B12 and 10mm spacers.
Aim for 12mm or less.
I got my setup squarer by going down to 245/40/18 on the rear and keeping 225/40/18 on the front as 235/40/18 rubbed lowered on B12 and 10mm spacers.
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
Really? Ahh
My alternative is a staggered setup of 18” 8 et35 and 18” 8.5 et38
Which do you think is better?
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
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Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
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Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
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http://www.willtheyfit.com
Use a website like this to see how it changes fitments. You want no further than 15mm out at the front and 20 at the back if you're not drastically changing camber
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Thanks, but would like to prompt that my post is more about the difference between staggered vs square than whether the wheels will fit.philbo909 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:11 pmhttp://www.willtheyfit.com
Use a website like this to see how it changes fitments. You want no further than 15mm out at the front and 20 at the back if you're not drastically changing camber
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
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Oh right, but your question was which offset is better?R60BBA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 pmThanks, but would like to prompt that my post is more about the difference between staggered vs square than whether the wheels will fit.
Staggered - understeer but looks nice and fits
Square - over steer but might not fit on the front
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
I run exactly this setup on my coupe, fitted with standard (non M) tyre sizes.
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Just to clarify this is a square 18” 8.5 et35 setup?rally-chris wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:43 pm I run exactly this setup on my coupe, fitted with standard (non M) tyre sizes.
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Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
Yes - 8.5 x 18 ET35 Team Dynamics Le Mans rims. No rubbing problems so far, but the front wheels definitely look wide relative to standard.R60BBA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:11 pmJust to clarify this is a square 18” 8.5 et35 setup?rally-chris wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:43 pm I run exactly this setup on my coupe, fitted with standard (non M) tyre sizes.
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They look sweet mate.rally-chris wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:28 pmYes - 8.5 x 18 ET35 Team Dynamics Le Mans rims. No rubbing problems so far, but the front wheels definitely look wide relative to standard.R60BBA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:11 pmJust to clarify this is a square 18” 8.5 et35 setup?rally-chris wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:43 pm I run exactly this setup on my coupe, fitted with standard (non M) tyre sizes.
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Do you reckon you could install lowering springs with this set up without rubbing?
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
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Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
I run 18 x 8.5 et35 square set up. No issues on my Z4C. Fills the front out nicely, it doesn’t seem to affect the handling much, but I don’t really push it.
That said so think I will fit 10-15mm spacers on the rear to “even out” the arch fill.
That said so think I will fit 10-15mm spacers on the rear to “even out” the arch fill.
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Maybe you get away with it standard ride height but that setup would definitely rub lowered with Eibach springs. I was running standard 8J ET47 front wheels with 10mm spacers and with a 225/40/18 it touched part of the liner ever so slightly until it wore off something tiny like 0.1mm.
Take from that what you will but I also had stiffer anti-roll bars and maximum front camber...
Take from that what you will but I also had stiffer anti-roll bars and maximum front camber...
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”
not quite a square setup, but I run a 245/35 front and 255/35 rear on 18x8 and 8.5" rims for track work... wider fronts just gives a bit more neutrality to the steering when exiting corners and trying to get on the power - with narrow fronts the car would always want to drift wide on the exit.
oversteer is never a problem in the dry, trackday rubber at a 255 width is more than ample to keep the rears locked down. could still do with a bit more camber on the front though.
oversteer is never a problem in the dry, trackday rubber at a 255 width is more than ample to keep the rears locked down. could still do with a bit more camber on the front though.