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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”

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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”

Post by R60BBA » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:08 pm

I went with 18” 8 et35 / 18” 8.5 et38.

Will post pics once the wheels are fitted.
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Post by R60BBA » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:57 pm

Wheels are on!
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Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”

Post by Mr Tidy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:58 pm

R60BBA wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:57 pm Wheels are on!
Looking good - but then you've got a good starting point with a Montego Blue Coupe! :) :thumbsup:
Coupes because stunning!
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Staggered vs Square Setup 18”

Post by hopz121 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am

Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:19 am

hopz121 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?
225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI

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Post by hopz121 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:20 pm

It looks pretty low already IMO

Have you checked the springs that are on it?
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Post by philbo909 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:27 pm

R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:19 am
hopz121 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?
225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:37 pm

hopz121 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:20 pm It looks pretty low already IMO

Have you checked the springs that are on it?
No but it could go lower.

I’ll check on the weekend.
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Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:52 pm

philbo909 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:27 pm
R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:19 am
hopz121 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?
225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones
Good question.

2 reasons:

1. Cost - there are only 2 legitimate vendors in the UK that sell 437m reps (CM Wheels and Skidz) [There is a 3rd vendor in North London but I question their legitimacy]. Skidz sell 437m reps in a square set up and CM staggered, but Skidz were looking for an extra £150 including postage and packaging. (Plus I also managed to get a free set of Bimecc bolts from CM - I highly recommend them).

2. Conservatism / fear of change - I am used to driving with a staggered set up and will be taking the car to the Nurburgring this May. A square set up gives more oversteer and I guess there is always that fear of not catching a corner and subsequently being charged a grand just to fix a couple pieces of Armco. The staggered set up provides me with more predictably and thus less worry :thumbsup:
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI

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Post by hopz121 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:03 pm

R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:37 pm
hopz121 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:20 pm It looks pretty low already IMO

Have you checked the springs that are on it?
No but it could go lower.

I’ll check on the weekend.
Looks higher there to be honest
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2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
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Post by philbo909 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:10 pm

R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:52 pm
philbo909 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:27 pm
R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:19 am

225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones
Good question.

2 reasons:

1. Cost - there are only 2 legitimate vendors in the UK that sell 437m reps (CM Wheels and Skidz) [There is a 3rd vendor in North London but I question their legitimacy]. Skidz sell 437m reps in a square set up and CM staggered, but Skidz were looking for an extra £150 including postage and packaging. (Plus I also managed to get a free set of Bimecc bolts from CM - I highly recommend them).

2. Conservatism / fear of change - I am used to driving with a staggered set up and will be taking the car to the Nurburgring this May. A square set up gives more oversteer and I guess there is always that fear of not catching a corner and subsequently being charged a grand just to fix a couple pieces of Armco. The staggered set up provides me with more predictably and thus less worry :thumbsup:
Nice, that's more than enough reason! car looks awesome by the way :thumbsup:
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:20 pm

philbo909 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:10 pm
R60BBA wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:52 pm
philbo909 wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:27 pm
Nice, that's more than enough reason! car looks awesome by the way :thumbsup:
Thanks fella :driving:
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI

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Post by bradz » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:28 pm

Just seen this thread. Looks good I love my square setup!- I'm running 9.5" 265/35-18 all round on a MC,

The increased traction on the front end is superb.

If your running a Si make sure you fit the offset front bushes they increase caster and therefor mid corner grip!

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