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CSL Atomics Vs Riva's - NOW WITH WHEEL WEIGHTS!!
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CSL Atomics Vs Riva's - NOW WITH WHEEL WEIGHTS!!
Hi all,
I've done my best to search for a similar related topic, but not had much luck so far.
I'm looking at CSL replicas from BM Autosport and my query is:
What is the difference between the Atomic CSL wheels and Riva CSL wheels?
I can see that the offset is slightly different, other than this is one better quality? More accurate replica?
Thanks
I've done my best to search for a similar related topic, but not had much luck so far.
I'm looking at CSL replicas from BM Autosport and my query is:
What is the difference between the Atomic CSL wheels and Riva CSL wheels?
I can see that the offset is slightly different, other than this is one better quality? More accurate replica?
Thanks
Last edited by markprz86 on Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Buy them from CMWheels, they offer discount to Z4Forum members.
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Riva usually 8j 9j , Atomic 8.5j 9.5j , on Si i would go for the Riva for this reason alone , if you do decide the wider widths work for you then pay the extra for the Veemann FS34 quality is a massive step up for not much more spend , ive had the others & currently have the 34s
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Thanks for the info, however I like the OEM look (I know they are replicas) and have always liked Z4's on CSLs.
So the Atomics being wider than the Riva's, what is the upshot of this?
Cheers
So the Atomics being wider than the Riva's, what is the upshot of this?
Cheers
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Upshot is if you lower the car & the offset on front is sub et40 then you're likely to hear the sound of rubber on plastic if you enjoy driving it or look closely at tyre size to avoid the problem
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peddling veemans again Andy?
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I’ve got Atomic’s and think they are a great match. The paint finish isn’t great so I had them refurbed, I’m not the biggest fan of hyper silver anyway though to be honest.
I went for et38 fronts and an et33 rear and don’t get any rubbing with eibachs
I went for et38 fronts and an et33 rear and don’t get any rubbing with eibachs
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So, If I had no intention of lowering it, then both Riva or Atomics would be fine.
If I did want to go lower, they would need to be Riva's.
Having owned the gen 1 and gen 2 Z4 convertibles, i'm not sure i'd want to go lower with the roads where I am!
Having done some research and comparison to the original m3 csl wheels, I would also tend to say that the Atomic's are a closer match to the original.
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Had the Atomics (ET 38) on mine with Eibachs and agree with Mr Wilks - you will get rubbing at the front with fast road driving. Dropping down profile from 235 to 225 improved it greatly, and going to 215 might have solved it completely, but I didn't want the stretched look. If I went 19's again, I wouldn't go below a 40 ET, as waiting to hear the sound of tyre on arch liner over every bump ruined the driving experience for me.
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Or just run 18s and have no issues whatsoever plus a more sporty driving experience
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Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
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Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
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Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI
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Gone: 2004 R53 Cooper S
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Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
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From researching what other users were running, I was going for the following:z4pilot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:00 amHad the Atomics (ET 38) on mine with Eibachs and agree with Mr Wilks - you will get rubbing at the front with fast road driving. Dropping down profile from 235 to 225 improved it greatly, and going to 215 might have solved it completely, but I didn't want the stretched look. If I went 19's again, I wouldn't go below a 40 ET, as waiting to hear the sound of tyre on arch liner over every bump ruined the driving experience for me.
Front tyre: 225 35 19
Rear tyre: 265 35 19
Wheels Atomic CSLs
WIDTH: 8.5" Front / 9.5" Rear
OFFSET: et38 front / et45 rear
WITHOUT lowering the car.
Does that say rub city?
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Id say all will be fine on the above infomarkprz86 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:56 amFrom researching what other users were running, I was going for the following:z4pilot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:00 amHad the Atomics (ET 38) on mine with Eibachs and agree with Mr Wilks - you will get rubbing at the front with fast road driving. Dropping down profile from 235 to 225 improved it greatly, and going to 215 might have solved it completely, but I didn't want the stretched look. If I went 19's again, I wouldn't go below a 40 ET, as waiting to hear the sound of tyre on arch liner over every bump ruined the driving experience for me.
Front tyre: 225 35 19
Rear tyre: 265 35 19
Wheels Atomic CSLs
WIDTH: 8.5" Front / 9.5" Rear
OFFSET: et38 front / et45 rear
WITHOUT lowering the car.
Does that say rub city?
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Excellent.
Thanks for the advice
Now to buy a Z4 Coupe....
Thanks for the advice
Now to buy a Z4 Coupe....
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Just spoken to both BM Autosport and CM Wheels regarding CSL replicas. Both have been very helpful and offered forum discount.
I didn't realise this, however, that the CM Wheels CSL's aren't the same as BM Atuosport Atomics. (my mistake)
I thought hey both stocked Atomic wheels (made in Taiwan), that were just at different price points.
CM Wheels are £510.00 delivered
BM Autosport are £615.00 delivered
Would the extra price mean better quality? I've seen a lot of posts from people expressing "You get what you pay for"
I didn't realise this, however, that the CM Wheels CSL's aren't the same as BM Atuosport Atomics. (my mistake)
I thought hey both stocked Atomic wheels (made in Taiwan), that were just at different price points.
CM Wheels are £510.00 delivered
BM Autosport are £615.00 delivered
Would the extra price mean better quality? I've seen a lot of posts from people expressing "You get what you pay for"
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From what I can work out, Atomic went bust or at least disappeared for a while last year. Perhaps if this is correct there is old stock left?markprz86 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:49 pm Just spoken to both BM Autosport and CM Wheels regarding CSL replicas. Both have been very helpful and offered forum discount.
I didn't realise this, however, that the CM Wheels CSL's aren't the same as BM Atuosport Atomics. (my mistake)
I thought hey both stocked Atomic wheels (made in Taiwan), that were just at different price points.
CM Wheels are £510.00 delivered
BM Autosport are £615.00 delivered
Would the extra price mean better quality? I've seen a lot of posts from people expressing "You get what you pay for"
I payed 6 something for mine from Bm Autosport. Can’t fault the wheels besides paint as per my other post above.
If they are the same sizes you could find out if there’s a difference in weight?
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Nearly sold them as they rubbed until I chanced putting a set of 255’s on (now rub free). Thought it might help to see pics of them fitted
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