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Replaced Battery Now No E-brake No Cruise Control etc
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Replaced Battery Now No E-brake No Cruise Control etc
I replaced my battery after the car would not start. With the new battery car starts fine but the E-brake does not work. Also the cruise control does not work and I get a TPMS not functioning warning on the dash as well.
I've read where this maybe a software glitch that arises after the low voltage condition?
Has anyone else experienced this?
What's the fix?
I've read where this maybe a software glitch that arises after the low voltage condition?
Has anyone else experienced this?
What's the fix?
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First - have you coded the battery to the car?Valor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:52 pm I replaced my battery after the car would not start. With the new battery car starts fine but the E-brake does not work. Also the cruise control does not work and I get a TPMS not functioning warning on the dash as well.
I've read where this maybe a software glitch that arises after the low voltage condition?
Has anyone else experienced this?
What's the fix?
Second, the e-brake can fail if your battery goes low, it happened to mine and it is a software update required.
Mine was done at BMW but I am sure a decent indie could sort it out
Not certain abut CC or TPMS
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My understanding is battery coding relates to recharging of the battery and does not impact other systems?Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pmFirst - have you coded the battery to the car?Valor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:52 pm I replaced my battery after the car would not start. With the new battery car starts fine but the E-brake does not work. Also the cruise control does not work and I get a TPMS not functioning warning on the dash as well.
I've read where this maybe a software glitch that arises after the low voltage condition?
Has anyone else experienced this?
What's the fix?
Second, the e-brake can fail if your battery goes low, it happened to mine and it is a software update required.
Mine was done at BMW but I am sure a decent indie could sort it out
Not certain abut CC or TPMS
Why would the e-brake, an important safety item, fail if a battery goes low?
Do you know what kind of software update is required? The local dealer, BMW of Beverly Hills, gives me a blank look when I mention that I think it is a software update.
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My understanding is battery coding relates to recharging of the battery and does not impact other systems?
Why would the e-brake, an important safety item, fail if a battery goes low?
Do you know what kind of software update is required? The local dealer, BMW of Beverly Hills, gives me a blank look when I mention that I think it is a software update.
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just noted that you are in the states, not certain if the e-brake issue affect cars stateside, however, this is a well know and discussed point on here - just do a search as you are not exactly the first one to ask about safety and brakes but it was 100% a software issue on mine, it failed when I went to collect the car and it took 4 or 5 weeks to get it sorted due to the pandemic.
Mine also showed wheel speed sensor failure
Not certain what the coding of the battery relates too, just know it needs to be coded.
Why would the e-brake, an important safety item, fail if a battery goes low?
Do you know what kind of software update is required? The local dealer, BMW of Beverly Hills, gives me a blank look when I mention that I think it is a software update.
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just noted that you are in the states, not certain if the e-brake issue affect cars stateside, however, this is a well know and discussed point on here - just do a search as you are not exactly the first one to ask about safety and brakes but it was 100% a software issue on mine, it failed when I went to collect the car and it took 4 or 5 weeks to get it sorted due to the pandemic.
Mine also showed wheel speed sensor failure
Not certain what the coding of the battery relates too, just know it needs to be coded.
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Just one thread on it, there are several if you searchValor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:48 pmMy understanding is battery coding relates to recharging of the battery and does not impact other systems?Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pmFirst - have you coded the battery to the car?Valor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:52 pm I replaced my battery after the car would not start. With the new battery car starts fine but the E-brake does not work. Also the cruise control does not work and I get a TPMS not functioning warning on the dash as well.
I've read where this maybe a software glitch that arises after the low voltage condition?
Has anyone else experienced this?
What's the fix?
Second, the e-brake can fail if your battery goes low, it happened to mine and it is a software update required.
Mine was done at BMW but I am sure a decent indie could sort it out
Not certain abut CC or TPMS
Why would the e-brake, an important safety item, fail if a battery goes low?
Do you know what kind of software update is required? The local dealer, BMW of Beverly Hills, gives me a blank look when I mention that I think it is a software update.
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Replaced Battery Now No E-brake No Cruise Control etc
The e brake cpu wakes up periodically/ is woken up when certain events happen..
With a flat battery early versions would brick themselves on power up..
Software update removed this bug..
With a flat battery early versions would brick themselves on power up..
Software update removed this bug..
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Have a read of the post below it should help getting it resolved
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=85788&hilit=Epb+software+update
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Think this post sums it up -Chippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:10 pm Have a read of the post below it should help getting it resolved
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=85788&hilit=Epb+software+update
Well I've done a diagnostics scan on the car and I get error code 6017 which is the wheel speed sensor DFA_EMF in the parking brake module.
Turns out that a drop in voltage I.e. Your battery charge is low can throw this up. So if you've a new car and leave it parked up for 3 weeks you might get the same issue.
Basically the only way to cure this is to complete a full softwear update to the vehicle including CAS per diag code D3440_EMF0000T_90_200. After programing fault codes should be cleared and road tested performed.
So I suspect that's what happened to be OP in this one. It's a joke really that it can throw an error that can only be resolved via a softwear update. Now to get it booked in.
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THANK YOU EVERYONE! Sounds like the issue I am having. Now after reading that thread I don't understand why BMW would charge us to fix their software glitch? My dealer wants to charge me over $200 to diagnose plus $$$ to fix the problem even after I just explained all of this information to the Tech. I am now reaching out to the service manager.Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:24 pmThink this post sums it up -Chippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:10 pm Have a read of the post below it should help getting it resolved
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=85788&hilit=Epb+software+update
Well I've done a diagnostics scan on the car and I get error code 6017 which is the wheel speed sensor DFA_EMF in the parking brake module.
Turns out that a drop in voltage I.e. Your battery charge is low can throw this up. So if you've a new car and leave it parked up for 3 weeks you might get the same issue.
Basically the only way to cure this is to complete a full softwear update to the vehicle including CAS per diag code D3440_EMF0000T_90_200. After programing fault codes should be cleared and road tested performed.
So I suspect that's what happened to be OP in this one. It's a joke really that it can throw an error that can only be resolved via a softwear update. Now to get it booked in.
As others have noted, this is a safety issue and a low battery should not cause your emergency brake to fail.
Page 52 of the owners manual says this is can be used as an emergency brake, so why would BMW not fix this safety defect without charging its customers?
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So they can screw more money from their trusting customers that why, you’re lucky over there as bmw replaced your cracked 19” wheels & hpfp’s - over here they just laughed at usValor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 pmTHANK YOU EVERYONE! Sounds like the issue I am having. Now after reading that thread I don't understand why BMW would charge us to fix their software glitch? My dealer wants to charge me over $200 to diagnose plus $$$ to fix the problem even after I just explained all of this information to the Tech. I am now reaching out to the service manager.Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:24 pmThink this post sums it up -Chippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:10 pm Have a read of the post below it should help getting it resolved
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=85788&hilit=Epb+software+update
Well I've done a diagnostics scan on the car and I get error code 6017 which is the wheel speed sensor DFA_EMF in the parking brake module.
Turns out that a drop in voltage I.e. Your battery charge is low can throw this up. So if you've a new car and leave it parked up for 3 weeks you might get the same issue.
Basically the only way to cure this is to complete a full softwear update to the vehicle including CAS per diag code D3440_EMF0000T_90_200. After programing fault codes should be cleared and road tested performed.
So I suspect that's what happened to be OP in this one. It's a joke really that it can throw an error that can only be resolved via a softwear update. Now to get it booked in.
As others have noted, this is a safety issue and a low battery should not cause your emergency brake to fail.
Page 52 of the owners manual says this is can be used as an emergency brake, so why would BMW not fix this safety defect without charging its customers?
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The issues is that if it is something else then you could be paying twice anyway so the diagnostic check should point to the correct repair but $200 seems a lot based on uk pricing of around £60 to £80 (which we also begrudge paying), remember we are only advising what we think is the cause based on your comments - we cant see the car.Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:58 pmSo they can screw more money from their trusting customers that why, you’re lucky over there as bmw replaced your cracked 19” wheels & hpfp’s - over here they just laughed at usValor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 pmTHANK YOU EVERYONE! Sounds like the issue I am having. Now after reading that thread I don't understand why BMW would charge us to fix their software glitch? My dealer wants to charge me over $200 to diagnose plus $$$ to fix the problem even after I just explained all of this information to the Tech. I am now reaching out to the service manager.Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:24 pm
Think this post sums it up -
Well I've done a diagnostics scan on the car and I get error code 6017 which is the wheel speed sensor DFA_EMF in the parking brake module.
Turns out that a drop in voltage I.e. Your battery charge is low can throw this up. So if you've a new car and leave it parked up for 3 weeks you might get the same issue.
Basically the only way to cure this is to complete a full softwear update to the vehicle including CAS per diag code D3440_EMF0000T_90_200. After programing fault codes should be cleared and road tested performed.
So I suspect that's what happened to be OP in this one. It's a joke really that it can throw an error that can only be resolved via a softwear update. Now to get it booked in.
As others have noted, this is a safety issue and a low battery should not cause your emergency brake to fail.
Page 52 of the owners manual says this is can be used as an emergency brake, so why would BMW not fix this safety defect without charging its customers?
Rob
You mentioned the local stealer was puzzled by your initial software update, not certain I would be going to them after this (although when I bought mine from a non franchised dealer they changed the wheel speed sensor first - then I told them what the issue was based on the threads in here) - they will be charging $300 for the update as well I imagine which is a real con as plug in laptop, start update and work on another car while just checking on yours occasionally, they certainly don't sit three for 3 hours.
Is there another local BMW garage or a good independent you can go to - maybe even call to see if they have any ideas on the issue.
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Wow that's terrible. For the record, they did not replace my wheels....for reasons beyond me. Does Porsche treat their customers like this?Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:58 pmSo they can screw more money from their trusting customers that why, you’re lucky over there as bmw replaced your cracked 19” wheels & hpfp’s - over here they just laughed at usValor1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 pmTHANK YOU EVERYONE! Sounds like the issue I am having. Now after reading that thread I don't understand why BMW would charge us to fix their software glitch? My dealer wants to charge me over $200 to diagnose plus $$$ to fix the problem even after I just explained all of this information to the Tech. I am now reaching out to the service manager.Ole gits rule wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:24 pm
Think this post sums it up -
Well I've done a diagnostics scan on the car and I get error code 6017 which is the wheel speed sensor DFA_EMF in the parking brake module.
Turns out that a drop in voltage I.e. Your battery charge is low can throw this up. So if you've a new car and leave it parked up for 3 weeks you might get the same issue.
Basically the only way to cure this is to complete a full softwear update to the vehicle including CAS per diag code D3440_EMF0000T_90_200. After programing fault codes should be cleared and road tested performed.
So I suspect that's what happened to be OP in this one. It's a joke really that it can throw an error that can only be resolved via a softwear update. Now to get it booked in.
As others have noted, this is a safety issue and a low battery should not cause your emergency brake to fail.
Page 52 of the owners manual says this is can be used as an emergency brake, so why would BMW not fix this safety defect without charging its customers?
Rob
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So I insisted the dealer do the "recall" software update which was for emissions purposes. I had to nearly argue with the service advisor to have that update done first before spending over $200 on a diagnostic run: A service advisor who frankly seemed to know very little about cars and care for the customer even less!
Well, seems the emissions update is really a full DME update and viola, E-Brake is working again!
Now I have two other issues:
1. How to delete music files from the harddrive.....and BMW of Beverly Hills could not figure it out!
2. How to get oil level readout as system says "oil level measure is inactive due to sensor error."
Well, seems the emissions update is really a full DME update and viola, E-Brake is working again!
Now I have two other issues:
1. How to delete music files from the harddrive.....and BMW of Beverly Hills could not figure it out!
2. How to get oil level readout as system says "oil level measure is inactive due to sensor error."
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The engine has to be up to normal operating temperature and the car on a level surface to check the oil level, if it still won’t read the oil level then you may have a faulty oil level sensor
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I have said about this for ages, software stopping the ebrake working should be a recall item, no different to a faulty air bag.
Ebrake is a safety critical item, if BMW have messed up they need to fix it.
Never had problem with ebrake but shortly after i bought my car a 2009 23i it was called back in 2013 for a security software update.
I wonder if that over the years stopped any problem with ebrake.
My colleagues car a 2012 at 12k miles the ebrake failed, last straw of various failures she got rid of car.
Ebrake is a safety critical item, if BMW have messed up they need to fix it.
Never had problem with ebrake but shortly after i bought my car a 2009 23i it was called back in 2013 for a security software update.
I wonder if that over the years stopped any problem with ebrake.
My colleagues car a 2012 at 12k miles the ebrake failed, last straw of various failures she got rid of car.