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Post by DR-Z » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:04 am

Looking for a late 28i, must have heated seats and Nav. Have seen a few advertised but I've missed the ones that really fit the bill.
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Post by Deepseaskateboard » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:12 am

I am also looking for one,
Four appear in auto trader with my search criteria, and none are the right colour!

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Post by mr wilks » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:38 am

Curious to know why specifically has to be the 28i & not considering the 2.0i?
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Post by DR-Z » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:52 pm

I previously had an E85, 2.5si, with 218BHP - underpowered in my view, had to really work the gears (manual) to get it to perform. Sure, the turbo engines may perform differently, but the E89 20i is much less powered then the 28i. That's my thinking anyway, although have to admit I haven't driven either.
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Post by mr wilks » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:07 pm

DR-Z wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:52 pm I previously had an E85, 2.5si, with 218BHP - underpowered in my view, had to really work the gears (manual) to get it to perform. Sure, the turbo engines may perform differently, but the E89 20i is much less powered then the 28i. That's my thinking anyway, although have to admit I haven't driven either.r
The 2.0i can easily be mapped (without issues) for around £250 to exceed the output of the 28i yet sell for approx £2500 less on like for like vehicles :?
I see little logic in holding out or seeking out a 28i then paying a premium for it over the 2.0i :(
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Post by JimsZ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:15 pm

Reading this topic got me interested in looking (As I have a 28i) I found 17 on Autotrader doing a national search?

Prices range between 12K and 22K from 2012 to 2016 mileage varied from 33k to 88K.


Mmmmm... might go test drive a G29 :P

Or I might just go get another X3 :?


Im sure if you search BMW used you'd find a lot more options :driving:
E89/28i Msport gone :( .. Zx10r track bike gone… time for a KTM 350 exc-f and some green laning and dirt bike excursions…. Let’s see how this goes… : :evil:

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Post by mr wilks » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:23 pm

JimsZ wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:15 pm Reading this topic got me interested in looking (As I have a 28i) I found 17 on Autotrader doing a national search?

Prices range between 12K and 22K from 2012 to 2016 mileage varied from 33k to 88K.


Mmmmm... might go test drive a G29 :P

Or I might just go get another X3 :?


Im sure if you search BMW used you'd find a lot more options :driving:
Theres no question the 28i holds a whefty price premium ( used) over its 2.0i sibling but its nothing more than shrewd marketing in my eyes.
I'd wager a good number of would be owners actually think they are buying a engine size between the 2.0 & 3.0 which isn't the case.
If the margin was a few hundred £ I'd understand the kudos appeal in the 28i badge but often its more like £2500 & I don't grasp that at all
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Post by DR-Z » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:39 pm

Surely, apart from badging, there's some technical/mechanical difference between the 20i and the 28i? Or are you saying that BMW just change the turbo boost (i.e. map) the same engine to get more power?

If that's the case I'd absolutely agree with what you say.
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Post by JimsZ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:52 pm

mr wilks wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:23 pm
JimsZ wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:15 pm Reading this topic got me interested in looking (As I have a 28i) I found 17 on Autotrader doing a national search?

Prices range between 12K and 22K from 2012 to 2016 mileage varied from 33k to 88K.


Mmmmm... might go test drive a G29 :P

Or I might just go get another X3 :?


Im sure if you search BMW used you'd find a lot more options :driving:
Theres no question the 28i holds a whefty price premium ( used) over its 2.0i sibling but its nothing more than shrewd marketing in my eyes.
I'd wager a good number of would be owners actually think they are buying a engine size between the 2.0 & 3.0 which isn't the case.
If the margin was a few hundred £ I'd understand the kudos appeal in the 28i badge but often its more like £2500 & I don't grasp that at all
Agree plenty with what your saying but not every one will want to mod their car.

My choice (Nearly 4 years ago now) was either a 35i/35is or the (what i saw as) the next step down from the range topper. I had to weigh up the running costs (Use it as my daily 80 mile round trip) and fuel consumption and service cost (Plus any major costs such as turbo issues, one v two etc) and struck the happy compromise of the 28i.

Spent 6 months researching before buying, spent 6 months after looking at mods. 28i can be mapped up to 310BHP, one example: https://www.br-performance.be/en-be/chi ... stage=4656

I do not think an 18 or 20 variant can but i stand to be corrected.

Strangely after the 6 months id spent looking at performance enhancements id decided its more than capable with the 245BHP so treat is as a touring car and I am happy to leave it alone.

After dumping the run-flats and cracked rims (afflicting the majority of the 19`s) by fitting new wheels and non run-flat tyres, apart from a sticking rear brake caliper ive had trouble free 4 years.

Paid my money took my chances and have not regretted it one bit, in the spirit of Easter id go as far as to say I have been one happy bunny with a 28i. Averages 39MPG and I don't drive like miss daisy to get it :P
E89/28i Msport gone :( .. Zx10r track bike gone… time for a KTM 350 exc-f and some green laning and dirt bike excursions…. Let’s see how this goes… : :evil:

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Post by Mr Tidy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:11 pm

I'm not too familiar with E89s, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the 28is have bigger front brakes than 18 or 20is. Might be worth checking if you are searching.

Apologies if I'm wrong! :roll:
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Post by JimsZ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 pm

Mr Tidy wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:11 pm I'm not too familiar with E89s, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the 28is have bigger front brakes than 18 or 20is. Might be worth checking if you are searching.

Apologies if I'm wrong! :roll:
So the rumor goes, nothing i have seen or read has confirmed this myth but either way they cant cope if you start pushing the car IMO and experience. They are good enough for day to day "normal" road use but start pushing it or take it any where near a track and id reckon you would need to upgrade them :o
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:05 pm

DR-Z wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:39 pm Surely, apart from badging, there's some technical/mechanical difference between the 20i and the 28i? Or are you saying that BMW just change the turbo boost (i.e. map) the same engine to get more power?

If that's the case I'd absolutely agree with what you say.
The engines fitted to the 18i/20i & 28i are the same :thumbsup:
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:06 pm

JimsZ wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 pm
Mr Tidy wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:11 pm I'm not too familiar with E89s, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the 28is have bigger front brakes than 18 or 20is. Might be worth checking if you are searching.

Apologies if I'm wrong! :roll:
So the rumor goes, nothing i have seen or read has confirmed this myth but either way they cant cope if you start pushing the car IMO and experience. They are good enough for day to day "normal" road use but start pushing it or take it any where near a track and id reckon you would need to upgrade them :o
Yep, the 28i comes with larger front discs.
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:07 pm

JimsZ wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:52 pm
mr wilks wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:23 pm
JimsZ wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:15 pm Reading this topic got me interested in looking (As I have a 28i) I found 17 on Autotrader doing a national search?

Prices range between 12K and 22K from 2012 to 2016 mileage varied from 33k to 88K.


Mmmmm... might go test drive a G29 :P

Or I might just go get another X3 :?


Im sure if you search BMW used you'd find a lot more options :driving:
Theres no question the 28i holds a whefty price premium ( used) over its 2.0i sibling but its nothing more than shrewd marketing in my eyes.
I'd wager a good number of would be owners actually think they are buying a engine size between the 2.0 & 3.0 which isn't the case.
If the margin was a few hundred £ I'd understand the kudos appeal in the 28i badge but often its more like £2500 & I don't grasp that at all
Agree plenty with what your saying but not every one will want to mod their car.

My choice (Nearly 4 years ago now) was either a 35i/35is or the (what i saw as) the next step down from the range topper. I had to weigh up the running costs (Use it as my daily 80 mile round trip) and fuel consumption and service cost (Plus any major costs such as turbo issues, one v two etc) and struck the happy compromise of the 28i.

Spent 6 months researching before buying, spent 6 months after looking at mods. 28i can be mapped up to 310BHP, one example: https://www.br-performance.be/en-be/chi ... stage=4656

I do not think an 18 or 20 variant can but i stand to be corrected.

Strangely after the 6 months id spent looking at performance enhancements id decided its more than capable with the 245BHP so treat is as a touring car and I am happy to leave it alone.

After dumping the run-flats and cracked rims (afflicting the majority of the 19`s) by fitting new wheels and non run-flat tyres, apart from a sticking rear brake caliper ive had trouble free 4 years.

Paid my money took my chances and have not regretted it one bit, in the spirit of Easter id go as far as to say I have been one happy bunny with a 28i. Averages 39MPG and I don't drive like miss daisy to get it :P
All the 20i range can be mapped to the same level (they all have the same engine) it depends on how the mapping is done :thumbsup:
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Post by dr_john » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:49 am

I went from a 28 to a 20 and found no discernable difference in performance apart from better fuel consumption with the 20.

The 28 did have better growl and pop from the exhaust, but I didn’t really miss that.
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