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The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:42 am
by ph001
Noticed this noise pulling into the driveway yesterday and immediately remembered a similar post on here a few months back about the oil filter.

On lifting the bonnet it does indeed seem to be coming from that area so next job is to change the filter out.

But does anybody know the exact reason for this!

https://youtu.be/0SK23DgAq2A

The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:47 am
by oldgitdave
Not on my Zed but I had an alternator bearing failure that sounded just like that.

The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:06 am
by ph001
I think most mechanics would be convinced it was a bearing too. But it’s definitely the filter.

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:45 am
by wonkydonkey
Have you seen this? https://youtu.be/s-nkJ5Sen9c

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:10 pm
by oldgitdave
Well, who'd have thought 🤔. Looks like you'll be changing the filter then in the first instance. Has it had a recent oil service? I wonder if it's actually the oil pump making the noise, struggling to force oil through a substandard filter?

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:50 pm
by ph001
Last oil change about 7 months ago. Always use Mann filters. Couldn’t get anything from Halfords for our cars so gonna have to order one online.

The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:50 am
by wonkydonkey
How very odd!

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:16 pm
by ph001
UPDATE: So my new MANN filter arrived today so I whipped the old one out to fit it. The old filter has been in around 6mths / 1,700 miles.

It sparked my memory that the last oil service pack order with Opie didn’t have the Mann filters in stock so I opted for the Bosch one.

Always had a pretty high opinion of the Bosch brand and have used their products a lot in the past.

Well... not anymore. Well not for oil filters at least. You can see from the image that a lot of the folds have collapsed and I guess the noise is these resonating together. Probably doesn’t cause any knock on effects but defo not great.

My recommendation from now on.. AVOID BOSCH OIL FILTERS.
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The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:25 pm
by wonkydonkey
This is the same collapsing I saw in the vid I linked you to above. I presume this happens because they're being compressed by the filter housing cap, which makes me think the filter is potentially too long. I don't suppose you measured the length of the new one and compared it to the (albeit squished) old one did you?

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:36 pm
by oldgitdave
^ this :D . You wouldn't have thought it with a brand like Bosch would you? I'll stay clear of those :thumbsdown: . Hopefully no harm done though :thumbsup: .

Anyway, you haven't said if the 'The curse of the squealing drama llama!' has finally been silenced :poke:

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:35 pm
by ph001
Absolutely, completely cured with the new filter. I didn’t measure each of the different brands unfortunately but they are specced the same on paper. I have a feeling it may be due to the inside diameter being a bit too tight on the Bosch. I seem to remember it being quite tight to get over the cage. Then as you screw the cap back on it perhaps twists and collapses.

The Mann filter slips over the cage with ease.

The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:58 pm
by wonkydonkey
That would make sense.

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:00 pm
by firebobby
I wonder how many owners have got rid of cars, thinking the engine was toast. Good to know though :thumbsup:

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:20 pm
by Thrustyjust
Hmmmmm.............fitted a Bosch filter about 300 miles ago :roll:

The curse of the squealing drama llama!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:25 pm
by oldgitdave
ph001 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:35 pm
Absolutely, completely cured with the new filter. I didn’t measure each of the different brands unfortunately but they are specced the same on paper. I have a feeling it may be due to the inside diameter being a bit too tight on the Bosch. I seem to remember it being quite tight to get over the cage. Then as you screw the cap back on it perhaps twists and collapses.

The Mann filter slips over the cage with ease.
Great news :thumbsup: . One to remember!