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Struggling to Disable Passenger Occupancy Sensor
- Jakg
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Struggling to Disable Passenger Occupancy Sensor
I've fitted some new seats and have the airbag light on, so need to disable the passenger occupancy sensor.
I've tried using BMW Scanner, but the "Recoding" option I need is disabled...?
I've also tried using NCS Expert but couldn't get it to connect to the right ECU (or at least, I couldn't work out which one was the right one).
Any ideas please? I'd like to do it in software if possible.
I've tried using BMW Scanner, but the "Recoding" option I need is disabled...?
I've also tried using NCS Expert but couldn't get it to connect to the right ECU (or at least, I couldn't work out which one was the right one).
Any ideas please? I'd like to do it in software if possible.
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Struggling to Disable Passenger Occupancy Sensor
are the new seat BMW Z4 ones or aftermarket? swap over black module from under the old seats and put a bypass plug in. this should sort the issue.
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Aftermarket. I have no idea where I'd mount the sensor.
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you should of taken this off the old seats and plugged it into the car yellow plug
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S9Lk9aj1g-g/maxresdefault.jpg
then added a bypass plug
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Passenger-Se ... 0505.m3226
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S9Lk9aj1g-g/maxresdefault.jpg
then added a bypass plug
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Passenger-Se ... 0505.m3226
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Struggling to Disable Passenger Occupancy Sensor
I'm aware I can bypass it but I'd rather disable it in software if possible.
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if you have ncsexpert you could look up "OC3" which is passenger occupancy sensor if its availible as on option to code
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try NCSexpert and look up ABG module, look for OC3 and disable it (set to nicht_aktiv)
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I can't see the "ABG" module in NCS Expert.
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Managed to do this.
The E85 uses the same airbag setup as the E60 despite being mechanically more like an E46.
You need to connect to the "Satellite ??? ???? Left / Right" module (I forget the exact name) depending on which side you want (SBSL / SBSR).
From there you need to change the SBSL_SBE or SBSR_SBE parameter.
Clear the fault in the SBSL / SBSR module, and the airbag light on the IKE (instrument cluster) and you should be golden.
The E85 uses the same airbag setup as the E60 despite being mechanically more like an E46.
You need to connect to the "Satellite ??? ???? Left / Right" module (I forget the exact name) depending on which side you want (SBSL / SBSR).
From there you need to change the SBSL_SBE or SBSR_SBE parameter.
Clear the fault in the SBSL / SBSR module, and the airbag light on the IKE (instrument cluster) and you should be golden.
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Hi Jakg,Jakg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:34 pm Managed to do this.
The E85 uses the same airbag setup as the E60 despite being mechanically more like an E46.
You need to connect to the "Satellite ??? ???? Left / Right" module (I forget the exact name) depending on which side you want (SBSL / SBSR).
From there you need to change the SBSL_SBE or SBSR_SBE parameter.
Clear the fault in the SBSL / SBSR module, and the airbag light on the IKE (instrument cluster) and you should be golden.
I have exactly the same issue as you on my 2003 car and am struggling to code out the occupancy module in NCS Expert. I used the NCS Dummy profile and found the related coding options in the SBSL ECU for my e85. I then found left occupancy matt sensor and set this to "not active" and exported a new FSW/PSW file but then noticed a warning in the export log stating that an error occured while reading C:\NCSEXPER\WORK\FSW_PSW.TRC unresolve parameter keyword "wert_02" in function ALGOPARAM_SBSL_EAM make sure chassis and module match those of the trace file
I then got worried and didn't write the amended file into the module in NCS Expert and now I'm lost. Have you an idea where I might be going wrong?
Thanks
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I guess the first question is - does the module you've selected's version match your setting in NCSDummy?CRAIGO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:40 amunresolve parameter keyword "wert_02" in function ALGOPARAM_SBSL_EAM make sure chassis and module match those of the trace file[/b]
I then got worried and didn't write the amended file into the module in NCS Expert and now I'm lost. Have you an idea where I might be going wrong?
Thanks
I.e. the C08 code thing or whatever.
It sounds like you've got the right module but the data in the file doesn't match what NCSDummy expects.
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I'll take a look tonight. The occupancy module physically has H/W "C10" stamped on it so I need to find a way to see if the software version of the module is the same I guess?
I realised I also used the Dummy profile in NCS Expert and perhaps Revtors or the Expert profile was what I should have used.
I'll be loading it all up again tonight in a bid to get this damn thing coded out for good
I realised I also used the Dummy profile in NCS Expert and perhaps Revtors or the Expert profile was what I should have used.
I'll be loading it all up again tonight in a bid to get this damn thing coded out for good
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Struggling to Disable Passenger Occupancy Sensor
I'd be checking the software version using NCSExpert.CRAIGO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:02 pm I'll take a look tonight. The occupancy module physically has H/W "C10" stamped on it so I need to find a way to see if the software version of the module is the same I guess?
I realised I also used the Dummy profile in NCS Expert and perhaps Revtors or the Expert profile was what I should have used.
I'll be loading it all up again tonight in a bid to get this damn thing coded out for good
I seem to remember a quirk where it shows the latest version in NCSExpert when you connect, but when you actually read the module it then updates with the actual version.
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Thanks JakG.
So tonight I got a little further having installed Revtors profile which I found actually tells you the correct module (CBD name) to select in NCS Dummy once downloaded from the AKMB ECU on the car. I pulled the information from the SBSL
module and imported it into NCS Dummy and got no errors
I then set Left Seat Occupancy Detection to 'Not Active', exported the MAN file and coded that back to the car in NCS Expert. I then pulled the Trace file again to confirm it had successfully coded - it stated 'Not Active'.
I then disconnected the occupancy module and turned off the warning light in BMW scanner 1.4 and the airbag light is still on. I then scanned the ECU on DIS and it's telling me I still have a communication error on SBSL. Eurgh....
Have I missed anything in NCS Expert - should I have deactived any further options related to the SBSL module?
JakG do you recall exactly which settings on SBSL that you set to Not Active as I notice there are a few more but they are simply check boxes with 'Value' number ranges 1-4?
Any ideas? Thanks
So tonight I got a little further having installed Revtors profile which I found actually tells you the correct module (CBD name) to select in NCS Dummy once downloaded from the AKMB ECU on the car. I pulled the information from the SBSL
module and imported it into NCS Dummy and got no errors
I then set Left Seat Occupancy Detection to 'Not Active', exported the MAN file and coded that back to the car in NCS Expert. I then pulled the Trace file again to confirm it had successfully coded - it stated 'Not Active'.
I then disconnected the occupancy module and turned off the warning light in BMW scanner 1.4 and the airbag light is still on. I then scanned the ECU on DIS and it's telling me I still have a communication error on SBSL. Eurgh....
Have I missed anything in NCS Expert - should I have deactived any further options related to the SBSL module?
JakG do you recall exactly which settings on SBSL that you set to Not Active as I notice there are a few more but they are simply check boxes with 'Value' number ranges 1-4?
Any ideas? Thanks
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