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ELECTRICAL ISSUES
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My 2003 Z4 2.5 with 89892 miles had few problems when I bought it a few months ago. I left the top down and went in the house for a while. When I came back there was a strong shower going on; I pulled into the garage and toweled everything down; too late I guess.
At first the windows would intermittently stop working, then the radio, then the top lockdown and release.
Next stage a few days later: windows worked, radio worked, top still intermittent.
Next: intermittently could not start car; had to bypass with a wire to solenoid. this worked for a week of two.
Next: stopped starting all together, only a buzzz sound from hood area then a clicking. buzzing stopped when I tried ground wire again but still no starting.
Next: dash lights would go out if i tried to start it more than once.
Next: everything went dead; hooked battery to charger; showed fully charged?
Next: still all dead except now: Park light by shifter flashes and clicking sound is heard from console? until i close door/ stops after a few minutes.
What in the world? Any ideas
At first the windows would intermittently stop working, then the radio, then the top lockdown and release.
Next stage a few days later: windows worked, radio worked, top still intermittent.
Next: intermittently could not start car; had to bypass with a wire to solenoid. this worked for a week of two.
Next: stopped starting all together, only a buzzz sound from hood area then a clicking. buzzing stopped when I tried ground wire again but still no starting.
Next: dash lights would go out if i tried to start it more than once.
Next: everything went dead; hooked battery to charger; showed fully charged?
Next: still all dead except now: Park light by shifter flashes and clicking sound is heard from console? until i close door/ stops after a few minutes.
What in the world? Any ideas
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Thats the airbag control module that sits under the centre console between the seats that has got water in it. Bit of a bitch to get to unfortunately but can probably be sorted with liberal use if wd40. If you unplug it I bet all the problems disappear. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105296&hilit=Airbag+control+module
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Thanks, I have it in an auto electric shop for the last 6 days. They have been trying to dry it out. When I talk to them next i'll ask if they went into the airbag control module. I'll let you know how it goes and i'll remember the WD40 too.
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They have probably just wasted 6 days. Also doubt they will know about the airbag control module or where it's located. Sorry to be a little sceptical here but you either need a good indie who knows about these cars or this forum to fix some of these more unusual issues. Basically the control module is corrupting the CANBUS.
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Got the car back today and you were right; they did not access the center console or even mention the control module. On the plus side they did eliminate the electrical drain; all except a very small one that they contribute to the P on the shifter; which they say stays on all the time. Had they actually locked the car they would have realized the light goes out at that moment. and they didn't charge much; $300 for labor $29 for materials (not sure what that was since no parts are listed). I intend to follow your suggestion and pull the console apart; at least the top part; so I can access the electrical parts and try to dry things out further. Any idea where I can find instructions? And thanks a million for your words of wisdom; I sincerely appreciate it.
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Just search "airbag control module" there are plenty of posts on it
Steps 5-17 of this guide should give you access to it... http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/6042EN.pdf
Steps 5-17 of this guide should give you access to it... http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/6042EN.pdf
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I guess I need to start from the beginning and learn to do a proper search on this site. When I type; "airbag control module" i get zero hits? However, I downloaded the guide you mentioned and read through the steps you advised. Looks doable but it seems that every screw or clip i try to remove ends up breaking the plastic. Guess i'll need a tube of cement before i get going. That will be my weekend project if the honey do's don't get in the way too much. Any idea where the control module is in that menagerie/ i'm guessing it will be about 4 to 6" by 4" box about and 1 1/2" thick with several wiring groups coming in and out of it. I looked up the part at several suppliers online and that is what i saw. (my current state of mind). Once again, thanks a million for all your guidance. wish me luck.
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Guess i am goofy. just opened search again and got 127 hits. guess i'll keep digging
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I’ve recently replaced my airbag control module. It was a PITA into get at, but not overly complicated (just a pain). Plenty of guides online if you have a look around.
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Thanks to both of you for your comments; I just reached almost the end of the 15th step and came to a halt. Can't tell how to unplug the elec. connection without breaking it? ON the way to that point I found many broken pieces of plastic lying around and even broke a couple myself; the plastic is very delicate and brittle. any suggestions on how to disconnect the electrical connect in step 15? Hate being so close and being stopped but don't want to break anything else. Also, i'm still learning about things; I noticed when I lock/unlock doors the electro-motor in this area activates? is that another short or is it supposed to do that and why if so?
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From memory there is a lever you need to press in to release the plug. It stick out the top by a few mm.
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Hard to say without seeing it, but it's usually a latch of somekind. This is what it looks like with the connectors removed, it's the black one that usually suffers...
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Thanks, I got the electrical connector out and just as several of you indicated, I had to push a piece back before pulling up. I left the module in place but disconnected both wire groups and sprayed elec. drying agent into everything, waited for it to completely dry, then started putting it back together. So far the only thing that is obviously working better is the radio speakers; not sure why? the overall sound is louder, and coming from more places. The top lockdown/up has worked every time so far, door locks, windows, all good. The one thing that isn't working is the outside temperature and clock in the radio? i'm going to check fuses next for these? Since most of the problems were intermittent i'll have to wait and see how things are.
The last big unmentioned issue I have, hopefully, is the seatbelt indicator on the dash. any ideas on how do fix or disconnect? I think someone might have clipped the wiring to avoid audible alarm but not sure yet. At least i'm on the road and much appreciation for all your help.
The last big unmentioned issue I have, hopefully, is the seatbelt indicator on the dash. any ideas on how do fix or disconnect? I think someone might have clipped the wiring to avoid audible alarm but not sure yet. At least i'm on the road and much appreciation for all your help.
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outside temp and clock in radio are working fine; just needed to reset time and that brought it all on line. Top continues to work well, door locks, windows, seats, mirrors; just the seat belt warning light to complete the repairs.
NOTE: a lot of plastic pins were missing; fenders, engine compartment covers, etc. I went to O'Reillys and eyeballed some/ the Nissan ones seemed to work best; a little tight but did the trick. Now everything is tight and mostly aligned. Everyone's advise was essential to getting it all done; thanks again and i'll try to pass it on some day.
NOTE: a lot of plastic pins were missing; fenders, engine compartment covers, etc. I went to O'Reillys and eyeballed some/ the Nissan ones seemed to work best; a little tight but did the trick. Now everything is tight and mostly aligned. Everyone's advise was essential to getting it all done; thanks again and i'll try to pass it on some day.