Hard braking - Keeping her straight

hopz121 · Post by **hopz121** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:03 pm

R60BBA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:06 am Just got quoted £30 by BMW Borehamwood for front and rear brake pad sensors.

Is there anywhere I can get these cheaper?

Preferably OEM...

Just go for pagid from ECP, you may also get away with not changing them

Also another

for PF pads, i have these on my M3 and am over the moon with them. On my Z4 i had red stuff pads and blank coated bream disc's which were good too. PF are another level though IMO.

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:28 pm

Look what just turned up

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:38 pm

Booked in.

hopz121 · Post by **hopz121** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:00 pm

You are in good hands

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:06 am

hopz121 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:00 pm You are in good hands

I certainly was.

Both Kevin and Lee know their stuff and their labour rates are quite a bit less than other garages.

I would definitely consider using them for future jobs.

hopz121 · Post by **hopz121** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:06 am

Glad your happy.

Both Top guys and much better than Munich Legends!

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:29 pm

hopz121 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:06 am Glad your happy.

Both Top guys and much better than Munich Legends!

Tbh, the service that I received at BMS and Munich Legends was more or less the same. There are however 3 differences between the garages:

1. Munich Legends’ labour costs are higher than BMS’
2. Munich Legends offer a courtesy car, whereas BMS don’t.
3. BMS only work on weekdays (which means I have to take a day off work to get stuff done to the car), whereas ML work also work on Saturdays.

It would have been handy if BMS did offer a courtesy car service as I dropped my car off at 9am and was told to collect it at 4pm. There’s not much to do in Leatherhead so my friend and I ended up getting a train to London for the day.

Apparently BMS used to offer a courtesy car service but due to customers damaging cars, putting their dogs in them and smoking in them etc, they stopped.

Nevertheless I haven’t any issues with either and both are reputable and trustworthy garages IMO.

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:27 pm

Okay so the brakes are on, but haven’t been bedded in just yet.

Looking to do a couple 100 miles before I follow EBC’s bed-in procedure, after which I will test to see whether this has solved the problem.

I think I am due a caliper refurb also...

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:42 am

Just a quick update.

Brakes are bedded in and the issue has gone away!

Next mods will be dampers + springs, bushes and a Quaife.

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:43 pm

Just got in my car and noticed that the bite of the EBC Redstuff pads when cold aren’t as good as stock.

Perhaps this is because of their ceramic compound?

cj10jeeper · Post by **cj10jeeper** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:59 pm

R60BBA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:43 pm Just got in my car and noticed that the bite of the EBC Redstuff pads when cold aren’t as good as stock.

Perhaps this is because of their ceramic compound?

Brakes designed for heavier use never bite as well from cold as standard brakes. It’s one of the trade offs

Glad you sorted the braking issue though with the new disks and pads before rebuilding half the car

Scooba_Steve · Post by **Scooba_Steve** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:04 pm

R60BBA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:42 amand a Quaife

This literally transforms the car

mjennings23 · Post by **mjennings23** » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:37 pm

R60BBA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:43 pm Just got in my car and noticed that the bite of the EBC Redstuff pads when cold aren’t as good as stock.

Perhaps this is because of their ceramic compound?

Let me know how you get on with these, I've read some advice that the Redstuff is designed for bigger cars, and Yellowstuff is more often recommended for the Z4.

Currently between the Yellowstuff or Mintex M1144 decision myself so would be good to get some input.

hopz121 · Post by **hopz121** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:38 am

I ran red stuff on my Z4 (fronts only) and once warm they are great pads.

Most Performance pads are not as good as OEM when cold but a few presses on the pedal whilst driving slowish to warm the engine up and then they work perfectly.

My PF pads on the M£ are the same, nothing to worry about

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:34 pm

mjennings23 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:37 pm
R60BBA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:43 pm Just got in my car and noticed that the bite of the EBC Redstuff pads when cold aren’t as good as stock.

Perhaps this is because of their ceramic compound?
Let me know how you get on with these, I've read some advice that the Redstuff is designed for bigger cars, and Yellowstuff is more often recommended for the Z4.

Currently between the Yellowstuff or Mintex M1144 decision myself so would be good to get some input.

I’ve had no issues with the Redstuff pads. I’d say the braking/stopping power is the same as stock however the Redstufff last a lot longer (less susceptibile to fade).

Minor issues: I’ve noticed that I have to notch my handbrake a little bit higher for it to bite and sometimes the offside front disc makes a squeaking noise. Not too fussed or concerned about this as apparently new discs can squeak until they are fully bedded in.

Which pads did you go for in the end?

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