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3.5iS- will this be a classic?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by GuidoK » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:03 pm

sunnydays wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:40 amIt is typically standard procedure to test cars in stock form round tracks when measuring there performance.
How do you know for your displayed times on those tracks?
Are those times set by factory teams? by magazine reviewers? or in amateur race classes? or best times recorded on track days?
Most of these tracks are not your typical test tracks for setting performance data.
So you say wat is 'usually used' for setting a test time, but you have no source on where the times you display even come from. Which party has set those times or even when.

It should come as no surpise that the newer car outperforms the older model.
Why would this be a set standard?!?
The z4m has (on paper) slightly more HP, has a far better power/weight ratio (or bhp per tonne) as the z4m is about 100-150kg lighter than the e89 35is, has an LSD, floating brake rotors etc.
True the n54 engine has a stronger torque curve, which certainly explains the slightly better acceleration (note: only 0.1 or 0.2sec), but braking distance, cornering speeds etc, the z4m has on paper better engineering inputs.
I dont know if you've ever been on a track, but weight is a bitch. So I'm not so sure if a z4m would be tested with current tyre tech that the outcome is as you claim.
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:06 pm

Adding power only makes you faster in a straight line, adding lightness makes you faster everywhere.
Mr Chapman said that if I'm not mistaken :thumbsup:
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Post by buzyg » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:11 pm

MattHall91 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:24 am
PerryGunn wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:09 am
Bing wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:23 am Would anyone care to guess exactly how many f*cks I give about whether a 35is is faster than my car ?
Let's attempt to calculate that for you....
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:rofl:
You have the whole family rolling around the floor with that one PG. :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:
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Post by Pastry » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:19 pm

Smartbear wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:06 pm Adding power only makes you faster in a straight line, adding lightness makes you faster everywhere.
Mr Chapman said that if I'm not mistaken :thumbsup:
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That include the driver? :poke: :D
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Post by ferry » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:29 pm

Er, no.

And the notion of holding on to it for long enough for it to become valuable looks a little shaky against a backdrop of uncertainty with respect to legislation and taxation. You won't be able to buy a new car with an internal combustion engine by then.......

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Post by Smartbear » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:17 pm

Pastry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:19 pm
Smartbear wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:06 pm Adding power only makes you faster in a straight line, adding lightness makes you faster everywhere.
Mr Chapman said that if I'm not mistaken :thumbsup:
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That include the driver? :poke: :D
I'll have you know that with my driving shoes on I'm positively sylph like :poke:
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:18 pm

ferry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:29 pm Er, no.

And the notion of holding on to it for long enough for it to become valuable looks a little shaky against a backdrop of uncertainty with respect to legislation and taxation. You won't be able to buy a new car with an internal combustion engine by then.......
But that could make them rocket in value...

We could all be like Mad max....

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Post by Pastry » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:22 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:18 pm
ferry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:29 pm Er, no.

And the notion of holding on to it for long enough for it to become valuable looks a little shaky against a backdrop of uncertainty with respect to legislation and taxation. You won't be able to buy a new car with an internal combustion engine by then.......
But that could make them rocket in value...

We could all be like Mad max....
That's it... I'm stockpiling fuel :wink:
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:28 pm

Pastry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:22 pm
Z4M-2006 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:18 pm
ferry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:29 pm Er, no.

And the notion of holding on to it for long enough for it to become valuable looks a little shaky against a backdrop of uncertainty with respect to legislation and taxation. You won't be able to buy a new car with an internal combustion engine by then.......
But that could make them rocket in value...

We could all be like Mad max....

That's it... I'm stockpiling fuel :wink:
I've got a jerry can in the garage, should last my 4pot years :fuelfire:
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Post by Pastry » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:36 pm

Smartbear wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:28 pm
Pastry wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:22 pm That's it... I'm stockpiling fuel :wink:
I've got a jerry can in the garage, should last my 4pot years :fuelfire:
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I've got two 250L drums up my yard, should be enough to get me to yours to confiscate your car :D
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Post by Dav the wheel nut » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:47 pm

Bing wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:23 am Would anyone care to guess exactly how many f*cks I give about whether a 35is is faster than my car ?
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Post by Bing » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:19 am

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Post by TONYL » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:42 pm

My other car is a triumph tr3
50 years ago worth not a lot but now very expensive!
If you want to keep your zed for 60 years then it just may be a classic if your allowed such a thing in the future!
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Post by GuidoK » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:52 pm

^very much true. There might even come a point that combustion cars all togheter come into a slob (like 10-20 years after all cars are ev's, and then suddenly they might come back again as highly desireable.

I mean look at what vinyl records (and their players) are going through now. Whats 'in' and 'out' in the future is very hard to predict.
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Post by Paulr » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:51 pm

Looking forward to my 8-Track coming into fashion again.
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