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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Post by Pondrew » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:06 am

enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:12 am Quick question from Norfolk:
What is this hill-start magic of which you speak?
I have never noticed the lack of it.

In fact, what's a hill?
+1 on that from the Fens. I have it on good authority that these vehicles also have a handbrake, although I don't understand it's function. :D
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Post by Deepseaskateboard » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:19 am

Pondrew wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:06 am
enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:12 am Quick question from Norfolk:
What is this hill-start magic of which you speak?
I have never noticed the lack of it.

In fact, what's a hill?
+1 on that from the Fens. I have it on good authority that these vehicles also have a handbrake, although I don't understand it's function. :D
What is the consensus for the e brake removal procedure on a hill?

Press accelerator, until bong, then release?

Or

Release and press accelerator? (May roll back?)

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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Post by Pondrew » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:26 am

Deepseaskateboard wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:19 am What is the consensus for the e brake removal procedure on a hill?

Press accelerator, until bong, then release?

Or

Release and press accelerator? (May roll back?)
My driving instructor told me to find the biting point of the clutch then release the handbrake. Never had a vehicle roll back in 35 years. It's not really difficult, is it. :thumbsup:
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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E89 20i Now fully dried
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Mazda3 sold
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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Post by Zed Baron » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:32 am

Make life easy... get an auto :rofl:
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Hill Start Assist - - My car don't have it ?

Post by Deepseaskateboard » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:50 am

Pondrew wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:26 am
Deepseaskateboard wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:19 am What is the consensus for the e brake removal procedure on a hill?

Press accelerator, until bong, then release?

Or

Release and press accelerator? (May roll back?)
My driving instructor told me to find the biting point of the clutch then release the handbrake. Never had a vehicle roll back in 35 years. It's not really difficult, is it. :thumbsup:
Yeah, thats the technique I use, but always get a bong.

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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Deepseaskateboard wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:50 am Yeah, thats the technique I use, but always get a bong.
Maybe because they don't have auto release, they are a bit over zealous with the warnings. I noticed for the first time the other day that if you have the handbrake on and the door open (with the engine running in neutral) and press the throttle the ebrake bongs for that too :o
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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E89 20i Now fully dried
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Mazda3 sold
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Post by buzyg » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:07 pm

Smartbear wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:47 am
enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:12 am Quick question from Norfolk:
What is this hill-start magic of which you speak?
I have never noticed the lack of it. :roll:

In fact, what's a hill? :rofl:
It holds the brakes on for a couple of seconds while you fumble around with your feet trying to find the accelerator :P
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Indeed the version on the MR is one of the few annoying things on the car. Still drives me nuts some times after 10 years, when it locks and unlocks like a drunk kangaroo, as you try to reverse off the drive using gravity. For hill starts, moving forwards, the car has a strange mechanical device called a handbrake. rendering the so called hill start, on the MR, a total waste of space. IMHO. :roll:
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Post by Smartbear » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:18 pm

buzyg wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:07 pm
Smartbear wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:47 am
enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:12 am Quick question from Norfolk:
What is this hill-start magic of which you speak?
I have never noticed the lack of it. :roll:

In fact, what's a hill? :rofl:
It holds the brakes on for a couple of seconds while you fumble around with your feet trying to find the accelerator :P
Rob
Indeed the version on the MR is one of the few annoying things on the car. Still drives me nuts some times after 10 years, when it locks and unlocks like a drunk kangaroo, as you try to reverse off the drive using gravity. For hill starts, moving forwards, the car has a strange mechanical device called a handbrake. rendering the so called hill start, on the MR, a total waste of space. IMHO. :roll:
Exactly the reason i didn’t like it on my 3.0si, using gravity/momentum while manoeuvring in my works car park became a lesson in frustration! :x
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Post by Vagueante » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:05 pm

i Had the feature in my manual F11 Bmw 5 series, and in my Rav4 diesel with Bmw 2.0D engine.

Here we have a lot of hills, and it does help in some situations.

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