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⌛Y3 Roof Diagnostic System (for all BMW convertible & roadster)

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Fri May 21, 2021 11:42 pm

As of today, I've completed the next concentrator box (BlueBox K2) for another couple of BMW convertibles:
  • F33 (4series)
    F83 (4series M)
    F91(M8)
    G14(8series]
Schema of 1 Y-cable placed between the roof loom (ST2, blue) and the CTM (red).
The E89 (Z4) requires 4 different Y-cables for its 4 connectors, the F33 (4-series) requires 3 different Y-cables.
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These concentrator boxes are challenging - about 220 different wires:
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The complete diagnostic system between the CTM (on top) and the red/silver AD-converter on the bottom:
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The whole story in German...
https://www.zroadster.com/forum/threads ... st-3264750

and translated 4U:
https://www-zroadster-com.translate.goo ... st-3264750
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Post by enuff_zed » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:23 am

RobbiZ4, I missed this initially and only just seen it.
I have absolutely no idea what you did, how it works, or how on earth you worked it all out, but.................
Brilliant! Never ceases to amaze me what people can come up with.
Up until now I had not completely understood your history behind all the roof advice you've been giving, only that you obviously knew what you were talking about.
I hope this thread enlightens people and stops any more doubting of the advice you freely and generously hand out to us.

Wunderbar! :thumbsup:
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Post by Pondrew » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:36 am

enuff_zed wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:23 am Wunderbar!
Wunderbar indeed. Excellent cable management too, so you are obviously tidy as well as ingenious :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by RobbiZ4 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:40 am

Thanks guys for the flowers. :thumbsup:

Well, did you have a look at the above linked details on the German website? Read the "short summary". :thumbsup:

Here directly translated by Google (not bad, but not perfect):
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... st-3264750

For the following BMW convertibles, the Y3 tool got finished (K1..5 are these blue concentrator boxes):

K1: E89 - Z4 Roadster
K1: E93 - 3-series convertible

K2: F33 - 4-series convertible
K2: F83 - M4 convertible
K2: F91 - M8 convertible
K2: G14 - 8-series convertible

K3: E46 - 3-series convertible
K3: E52 - Z8 Roadster
K3: E64 - 6-series convertible

K4: E88 - 1-series convertible
K4: F23 - 2-series convertible
K4: F12 - 6-series convertible
K4: R57 - Mini convertible
K4: R59 - Mini Roadster

K5: G29 - Z4 Roadster
K5: G29 - Boldmen CR4 https://www.boldmen.de/en/
K5: I15 - i8 Roadster
K5: F57 - Mini Cabrio

All 5 concentrator boxes (K1...K5) got completed in between, as well as tested with at a minimum of one model.

Update October/November 2022:
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An additional concentrator K6 has been finished and tested:
K6: R52 Mini Cabrio
K6: E85 Z4 Roadster

Upgrade of K5:
K5: G23 - 4er convertible
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:53 am

Latest test of the reworked Z4 concentrator box (K1) for our E89, that collects all 4 Y-cables connected to the roof CTM.
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The two 50 pole output connectors each supply 24 A/D channels in parrallel, to draw a collection of 24 timeline diagrams on a single notebook screen. The 50 pole white output cable on the left of the concentrator is connected to the following devices, placed inside the car.

Each roof activity can be seen live in these 24 diagrams: relais, pump, solenoids, locking system, microswitches, hall sensors - everything.
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Post by Pbondar » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:39 pm

I thought I was cool flying Bimmergeeks Protool! :tumbleweed:

You are the man! :thumbsup:

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Post by RobbiZ4 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:37 pm

Pbondar wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:39 pm I thought I was cool flying Bimmergeeks Protool!
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:54 am

Initial tests of the K3 concentrator (3/E46, Z8 E52, 6/E64) on a 3-series E46:
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Yes, it works even on this elder convertible. :D
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:01 am

Tests of the K4 concentrator (1-series E88, 2-series F23, 6-series F12, Mini R57 & R59) on a 6-series F12:
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Post by Pbondar » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:25 am

Not your average simple circuit tester… :thumbsup:
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:28 am

Well, that was my initial tool on the E89 roof. :rofl:

Unbelievable what's available right now compared to the first steps. :thumbsup:
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:37 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:40 am For the following BMW convertibles the Y3 tool got finished in between (K1..5 are these big blue concentrator boxes):

K1: E89 - Z4 Roadster
K1: E93 - 3-series convertible

K2: F33 - 4-series convertible
K2: F83 - M4 convertible
K2: F91 - M8 convertible
K2: G14 - 8-series convertible

K3: E46 - 3-series convertible
K3: E52 - Z8 Roadster
K3: E64 - 6-series convertible

K4: E88 - 1-series convertible
K4: F23 - 2-series convertible
K4: F12 - 6-series convertible
K4: R57 - Mini convertible
K4: R59 - Mini Roadster

K5: G29 - Z4 Roadster
K5: G23 - 4-series convertible
K5: I15 - i8 Roadster
K5: F57 - Mini Cabrio
In between, also the 5th concentrator box got completed as well as tested successfully.

The latest test of the K5 BlueBox was on a new Z4 G29:
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Why do all the posted pictures disappear from my former postings? :x
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Post by Zed Baron » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:51 pm

great work :thumbsup:
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Post by Smartbear » Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:04 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:04 pm Why the hell do all the posted pictures disappear from my former postings? :x
In this thread? I can see them all :?
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