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Aerodynamic drag and why a coupe is better

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Aerodynamic drag and why a coupe is better

Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:33 am

Recent conversations about various owners fuel consumptions got me thinking about aerodynamic drag..as I'm sure you often think about it..

I was discussing some performance profiles in aircraft and recollect that my kit plane I built in the 1990's would do 155 knots (about 178 mph) on a Rotax 921 engine rated at 100 bhp..

Obviously a whole bunch of aerodynamic related factors figure in that equation..

I then pondered about various Z4 fuel consumption figures..about 95%+ of the time I drive with the roof down..whereas..I ususally see most other Z4s with their roofs up!

So I wonder how much extra fuel I'm burning compared to those top up guys and the coupes?

Interesting article here http://sersol.weebly.com/workshop/conve ... rodynamics# about some modelling top up and down and the effect of a rear spoiler on affairs..and also the wind deflector effect..


Since drag force goes up with the square of the speed at 70mph I must be burning quite a bit more fuel?

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Post by enuff_zed » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:07 pm

Pbondar, you are missing the one vital part though.

Life is a drag with the roof up :D
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Post by tintoverano » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:11 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:07 pm Life is a drag with the roof up :D
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Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:47 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:07 pm Pbondar, you are missing the one vital part though.

Life is a drag with the roof up :D
Thank you for that detailed, reflective analysis!

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Post by Chris_D » Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:22 pm

Don't even get started on bike-racks!

I'd be interested to see the CFD model of adding my bikerack and sometimes 2 bikes on the back of the zed, top down averaging 100kmh (new Dutch speed limit. s'okay).
I swear I can feel the drag sometimes, especially in a headwind.
What a drag. :lol:
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Post by enuff_zed » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:52 pm

Pbondar wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:47 pm
enuff_zed wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:07 pm Pbondar, you are missing the one vital part though.

Life is a drag with the roof up :D
Thank you for that detailed, reflective analysis!
My pleasure.
Can't just let you get away with slack fact-finding. :D
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Post by flybobbie » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:21 pm

3 and 4 looks a bit draughty in the back seats.
What kit plane did you get 155kts on 100hp, Pulsar by any chance.

I'm still waiting to try out a Glasair in the hanger.

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Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:37 pm

flybobbie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:21 pm 3 and 4 looks a bit draughty in the back seats.
What kit plane did you get 155kts on 100hp, Pulsar by any chance.

I'm still waiting to try out a Glasair in the hanger.
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Post by Chris_D » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:43 pm

That reg no.
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Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:53 pm

Chris_D wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:43 pm That reg no.
:rofl:
I had to formally write to the UK CAA explaining why it was OK, they refused to grant my original application..

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Post by enuff_zed » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:59 pm

Hell, it's so small it looks like you have spats on your feet! :D
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Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:29 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:59 pm Hell, it's so small it looks like you have spats on your feet! :D
That's why it was so speedy..0-10,000 ft in 6min 45 secs..not bad for a kit plane..bloody vicous handling..snap roll on stall..roll rate greater than 90 degrees per sec..

The ex Empire Test School check pilot loved it!

Just like a little jet fighter he mused..couldn't get the buggar out of it!

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Post by buzyg » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:17 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:07 pm Pbondar, you are missing the one vital part though.

Life is a drag with the roof up :D
:D :driving: :thumbsup:

Spot on, stuff the techno babble. :lol:
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Post by buzyg » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:24 pm

Pbondar wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:37 pm Dyn Aero Banbi MCR01
I have shoes bigger than that.

Looks and sounds like amazing fun. 8) :thumbsup:

Enjoy play time in your very own PooP. :D

Oh and if you get the chance, put the roof down. :wink:
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Post by MACK » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:09 pm

Getting back on top kinda.
I was always told using the air con had a detrimental effect on fuel economy. Obviously driving top down isn't as efficient as top up, but I do wonder how top down and air con off compares with top up and air con on.
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