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Walnut Blasting

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by BadgerDog » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:58 am

So I understand the idea behind it and what it buys you, etc. I'm just trying to get a feel for how often. I have to assume its never been performed on my car, which is a 2016. Is it about that time, or too early to be wasting money on it? A QUICK search found one place that will do it for $250, and it sounds like something I could do myself (already have a nice air compressor, would just need a blasting tool, which is cheap enough). Possible I could find it cheaper elsewhere, but regardless, what say the collective?

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Post by Smartbear » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:25 am

BadgerDog wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:58 am So I understand the idea behind it and what it buys you, etc. I'm just trying to get a feel for how often. I have to assume its never been performed on my car, which is a 2016. Is it about that time, or too early to be wasting money on it? A QUICK search found one place that will do it for $250, and it sounds like something I could do myself (already have a nice air compressor, would just need a blasting tool, which is cheap enough). Possible I could find it cheaper elsewhere, but regardless, what say the collective?
What model z4 have you got? Not all of them need walnut blasting :thumbsup:
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Post by BadgerDog » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:56 am

2016 Z4 sDrive35i. Estoril blue if the color matters. (Kidding, haha)

Joking aside, I was under the impression that all of the fuel injected engines can end up needing it because they dont get fuel washing over the valves. Wouldnt that be ALL of the zeds?

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Post by john-e89 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:10 am

BadgerDog wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:58 am So I understand the idea behind it and what it buys you, etc. I'm just trying to get a feel for how often. I have to assume its never been performed on my car, which is a 2016. Is it about that time, or too early to be wasting money on it? A QUICK search found one place that will do it for $250, and it sounds like something I could do myself (already have a nice air compressor, would just need a blasting tool, which is cheap enough). Possible I could find it cheaper elsewhere, but regardless, what say the collective?
What size is your compressor Badgerdog...? Unless you’ve got something with at least 200litres with up to 145psi capability and a flow rate of around 12 CFM you’ll not do it I’m afraid AFAIK, that’s what you need for soda blasting for example so I’m assuming it’s the same for walnut too. These things chew air like you wouldn’t believe.
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Post by BadgerDog » Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:26 am

Oh dang. If the needs are really that high then I'm out. Its decent but not that good (cant recall exact specs off hand though).

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Post by Zikim » Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:51 am

You can always use CRC Intake Cleaner as an alternative method, remove intake manifold as per walnut blasting but then use a strong chemical that dissolves the carbon build up. I did it earlier this year and it works a treat. It is detailed on a previous thread on here
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=120044&p=1717627&h ... g#p1717627

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Post by DMike » Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:52 am

BadgerDog wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:56 am 2016 Z4 sDrive35i. Estoril blue if the color matters. (Kidding, haha)

Joking aside, I was under the impression that all of the fuel injected engines can end up needing it because they dont get fuel washing over the valves. Wouldnt that be ALL of the zeds?
As far as I’ve read, not necessary for the M54s. Or perhaps for them just find a nice long winding road through a forest with walnut trees, then blast until valves are red :D. When I first time heard ”walnut blasting” this instant Schwarzwald association was the first one that came to my mind...
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Post by R.E92 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:30 am

I had it done a few years ago at 50,000 miles at a BMW dealer while in for warranty work, they said the valves weren't that dirty to begin with. Total cost was £250 which included all replacement gaskets.

I almost always prefer to DIY but £250 is the going rate even at specialists so at that price it seems a no brainer to farm it out. The cost of buying all the equipment means that unless you are going to do multiple vehicles it doesn't save any money.

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Post by Chippie » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:51 am

I’d say the valves would need doing about every 60,000 miles as mine we’re getting quite a build up by then
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Post by MACK » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:03 am

You only really need to be considering this on DFI engines where the valves aren't fuel washed by the injectors, which eliminates all the E85 variants and only leaves the turbo E89's. I'm led to believe the older N54/5's are worse in this respect than than N20 due to the design of their breather systems, but none of the BMW engines are as bad as some VW/AUDI ones
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Post by Zikim » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:19 am

Chippie wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:51 am I’d say the valves would need doing about every 60,000 miles as mine we’re getting quite a build up by then
If you fit an Oil Catch Can after cleaning the valves you will never have to do it again because you are eliminating the source of the problem

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Post by bg1 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:25 am

What is walnut blasting? Is it Apr 1?

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Post by Smartbear » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:58 am

bg1 wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:25 am What is walnut blasting? Is it Apr 1?
It’s the use of ground walnut shell as a medium for blasting carbon build up from the intake valves/ports :thumbsup:
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Post by mcbutler » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:27 pm

Oil catch can is a must, I fitted the mishimoto kit earlier this year after reading comments by multiple performance suppliers/tuners that it is the first step with any direct injection engine.

My post on fitting to 35i is here ....

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=119149&p=1705789&h ... n#p1705789
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Post by BadgerDog » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:39 pm

DMike wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:52 am As far as I’ve read, not necessary for the M54s. Or perhaps for them just find a nice long winding road through a forest with walnut trees, then blast until valves are red :D. When I first time heard ”walnut blasting” this instant Schwarzwald association was the first one that came to my mind...
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