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Are all Autos like this?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Ming » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:56 pm

I have an E89 20i with the 8 speed ZF auto box. Wanted an auto as I struggle with my left ankle and it's the first one I've owned, although I have driven a couple of others some years ago.

Now, in normal driving it's perfect. My problem is very slow speed manoeuvring like when I'm parking on an incline. I always thought that in Drive the car wouldn't roll back, but it does quite a bit. If you give the throttle a press there's too much grunt going to the wheels and I'm in danger of bumping into the car in front or behind. Seems it's difficult if not impossible to have the same control you get by holding the car on the clutch biting point. Doesn't help that you can't release the electric handbrake unless you're pressing the footbrake, so as soon as you move your foot to the accelerator it's already started to roll.

Now - are all automatics like this or is it just mine? And if it's a common thing, how do you smoothly parallel park on a slope?
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Post by Jollyjoiner » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:09 pm

Can you try and use your left foot on the brake and release that as if your releasing a clutch pedal, than can sometimes make your manoeuvers a little smoother.
I used to use this method in an old Granada I used to have.
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Post by Ming » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:26 pm

I'll have a go but I don't have much feeling in my left foot, hence why I chose an automatic. I drove a F-Type Jag a few years back and that had an 8 speed auto and I can't remember it being as bad as the Zed when parking in tight spaces.
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Post by mr.tourette » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:30 pm

dont recall having issues like this in any auto, car shouldn't roll back at all in drive I'm sure
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Post by Ming » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:42 pm

Does it in drive and reverse. Maybe 3 or 4 feet before it holds, then when I touch the throttle it's like nothing happens then I get a big push of acceleration. Very difficult to be smooth with it when an incline is involved.
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Post by IRD » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:47 pm

That doesn’t sound right to me. I had an 8 speed auto on our 330d and it was easy to park etc. Currently I have 3.5is DCT which is not quite as smooth to manoeuvre. But neither seem as bad as yours is.

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Post by ColinBR » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:04 pm

Definitely not right.

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Post by mr.tourette » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:09 pm

something is not right, shouldn't move back 3 or 4 inches never mind feet
if its got tits or tyres..its trouble :D

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Post by Silverstar » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:15 pm

These new autos do roll back in drive but the E89 have an auto hold feature meaning you have few seconds before the car starts to roll back. If yours is not auto holding there must be a fault somewhere. I have tested this in my older ZF 6 Speed auto on a steep hill and it holds fine.
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:20 pm

Silverstar wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:15 pm These new autos do roll back in drive but the E89 have an auto hold feature meaning you have few seconds before the car starts to roll back. If yours is not auto holding there must be a fault somewhere. I have tested this in my older ZF 6 Speed auto on a steep hill and it holds fine.
Auto hold wasn’t fitted to the 2.0 range.
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Post by Tinker15 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:24 pm

Like others have said this shouldn’t happen. I drive two automatics my 6 speed E89 and a 8 speed Jaguar XF and neither display the symptoms you describe.
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Post by Pbondar » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:27 pm

How many miles has the car done?

When did you first notice this?

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Post by Jasonn » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:29 pm

My biggest bugbear with my 20i is the lack of hill start (it's a manual) - I've got it in my X3 manual, but it's a royal pain in the a**e with the electronic hand brake - really miss the old fashioned cable type - it's the only thing that irritates me about the zef

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Post by Silverstar » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 pm

Smartbear wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:20 pm
Silverstar wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:15 pm These new autos do roll back in drive but the E89 have an auto hold feature meaning you have few seconds before the car starts to roll back. If yours is not auto holding there must be a fault somewhere. I have tested this in my older ZF 6 Speed auto on a steep hill and it holds fine.
Auto hold wasn’t fitted to the 2.0 range.
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That is odd why did BMW do that? Another reason to get the 3.0 then :P :exitright:
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:10 pm

Silverstar wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:20 pm
Silverstar wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:15 pm These new autos do roll back in drive but the E89 have an auto hold feature meaning you have few seconds before the car starts to roll back. If yours is not auto holding there must be a fault somewhere. I have tested this in my older ZF 6 Speed auto on a steep hill and it holds fine.
Auto hold wasn’t fitted to the 2.0 range.
Rob
That is odd why did BMW do that? Another reason to get the 3.0 then :P :exitright:
Less weight (better handling) :P
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