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HOW DOES YOUR E89 HANDLE?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by mr.tourette » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:25 pm

Maybach_man wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:19 pm
mr.tourette wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:23 pm
Maybach_man wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:02 pm I seriously need to get someone else to drive my car...i have runflats and i get no tramlining or ditchfinding or anything,, what am i doing wrong... :?
Not going over 80? When I picked mine up it was on runflats and it felt ok mostly but as soon as you got upto 70/80 it felt all over the place
No....like its on rails always....
Lucky you, I take it they are not bridgestones ? like I said mine didn't feel too bad mostly..still feels a lot better on regular tyres though
if its got tits or tyres..its trouble :D

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Post by Stevo1987 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:43 pm

Maybach_man wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:02 pm I seriously need to get someone else to drive my car...i have runflats and i get no tramlining or ditchfinding or anything,, what am i doing wrong... :?
I have the Bridgestone runflats and I also don't have those problems. Maybe I just don't drive it fast enough. :) It does crash over drain covers and anything similar though.
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Post by Maybach_man » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:11 am

mr.tourette wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:25 pm
Maybach_man wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:19 pm
mr.tourette wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:23 pm Not going over 80? When I picked mine up it was on runflats and it felt ok mostly but as soon as you got upto 70/80 it felt all over the place
No....like its on rails always....
Lucky you, I take it they are not bridgestones ? like I said mine didn't feel too bad mostly..still feels a lot better on regular tyres though
Bridgestones from the factory.... wife has Pirelli's on her 2 series and no issues there either....its all very strange...

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Post by 3.0Rich » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:41 am

As previously mentioned, mine got a bit agitated over that speed. Can be doing some silly speeds in these cars with that power delivery, a bit deceptive.

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Post by 3.0Rich » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:58 pm

Oh, and I thought I'd see which tyres are on the front after 6 weeks :) and yes, they're run flats.....on the ball, me. :?

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Post by Lazza » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:55 pm

To be fair, when I bought my 35i it had the Bridgestone RFs and I thought it was fine. It had decent grip in the dry, ok in the wet, was a bit crashy on rough roads and a bit noisy but nothing too bad. I didn’t hate them.
But I upgraded to non-RF anyway and was amazed at the difference! More dry grip, way more wet grip! Much quieter (it seemed like the exhaust was louder as I could actually hear it!) the crashing over rough roads was gone and it didn’t lose any feedback.
So if you think your car is fine on RF tyres, it can be so much better!
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Post by engine killer » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 am

Pbondar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:06 pm
E90 M3 steering suspension parts
Will that make a very significant difference?

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Post by mcbutler » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:10 am

engine killer wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 am
Pbondar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:06 pm
E90 M3 steering suspension parts
Will that make a very significant difference?
Probably not Peter, how different can they be? maybe stiffer bushes and lighter material thats all I can think of, oh and a higher price of course...
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Post by Pbondar » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 am

engine killer wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 am
Pbondar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:06 pm
E90 M3 steering suspension parts
Will that make a very significant difference?
Quite a few people have dine this mod..of course depends on how ‘switch on’ to the telemetry coming from the steering you are...

Player1 documented in detail this set of mods on his 35is on this forum..

Others have documented it on US forums too..

It’s a very common mod on 3 non m series too...there is now a standard kit available from one of the poly bush handling companies for the 3 series..

There is an issue that,yet again,the E89 has its lighting / pitch sensor on the opposite side to the 3 series so a mod is required to handle this..again others have documented that..I sawed off the bracket on the old linkage and used aerospace glue to bond it to the new arm..

I found it, like many others, removed a slight wishy / washy feel from the steering, many have said that all BMW electrical steering lacks feel / feedback..the E89 updated heavily the E85 version..

So the combo of new linkages with the normal EPS resulted in a marked improvement when ‘hooning’..

Especially on the edge, in the wet, trying to turn , bumpy roads etc..plus at very high speed on rapidly switching bends.. :driving:

Like all mods the cost/time /benefit combo is something only the person doing it can decide..

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Post by JoeZed » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:36 pm

Bought my e89 with Continentals - non RF. Handling and cornering grip - superb ! Epic !
Had to replace the rear tyres due to unrepairable puncture and figured I’d try non RF Falkens. Well - what fun I had for the first 1500 miles. At 80 mph , the car felt I was towing a snaking caravan . The slightest steering correction resulted in over correction . I had to keep both hands on the steering wheel. The car did not feel safe.
On country roads - Entering corners with the slightest of down hill gradient at speeds I was used to with conti’s , resulted in DSC kicking in . Too easily .
After 1500 miles and plenty of burn outs , the Falkens came good. Throwing the car into the corners and getting the car weighted on the back tyres was the way to go. The car drives in a perfect straight line over at 80+ now and I feel safe again and am quite happy with the ride.
If you put Falkens on your car - bare with them - they need about 1500 miles to run/bed in and several burn outs.
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Post by Stevo1987 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:31 pm

JoeZed wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:36 pm Bought my e89 with Continentals - non RF. Handling and cornering grip - superb ! Epic !
Had to replace the rear tyres due to unrepairable puncture and figured I’d try non RF Falkens. Well - what fun I had for the first 1500 miles. At 80 mph , the car felt I was towing a snaking caravan . The slightest steering correction resulted in over correction . I had to keep both hands on the steering wheel. The car did not feel safe.
On country roads - Entering corners with the slightest of down hill gradient at speeds I was used to with conti’s , resulted in DSC kicking in . Too easily .
After 1500 miles and plenty of burn outs , the Falkens came good. Throwing the car into the corners and getting the car weighted on the back tyres was the way to go. The car drives in a perfect straight line over at 80+ now and I feel safe again and am quite happy with the ride.
If you put Falkens on your car - bare with them - they need about 1500 miles to run/bed in and several burn outs.
Those early early miles sound like Falken Hell. :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by Yal » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:27 am

I'm on runflats and any quick movement, the car snakes all over the place. Fortunately, I understand correcting, but dang, the thing is squirrelly with that quick ratio steering. I'm going to add some caster and a little toe in. I'll get the new tires, but since I got the car with new run flats, I really don't want to buy another set of tires for it until they've worn a little. For now, it's working on my smoothness I guess.

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