Have 35is prices bottomed out yet?

sunnydays

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Hey guys,

Title really, would you say the prices of earlier 35is cars have bottomed out yet, or are they still in free fall? What sort of price levels do you think they will settle at given the rarity?
 
I think pre-facelift high milers will keep dropping especially once they hit 10 years old, but it will be a while before a good facelift model is ~15k.

I'm actually really really struggling to think of a replacement, they're really amazing value for money tbh so hopefully prices will remain more or less static for a while.
 
Chris1712 said:
I think pre-facelift high milers will keep dropping especially once they hit 10 years old, but it will be a while before a good facelift model is ~15k.

I'm actually really really struggling to think of a replacement, they're really amazing value for money tbh so hopefully prices will remain more or less static for a while.

Why do you think specifically the post LCI will retain better residuals...it seems compared to age, mileage, options not to be a major issue IMHO?
 
Pbondar said:
Why do you think specifically the post LCI will retain better residuals...it seems compared to age, mileage, options not to be a major issue IMHO?

Just that the earlier revisions seem more notorious for big issues, HPFP/Turbo problems etc. By the time the facelift came reliability is anecdotally improved. Also the push/pull paddles on the pre-facelift are bloody stupid which personally would stop me getting one along with the old school headlights.

You're right though miles/condition/spec will be more important, like for like there'd probably only be £500 or so in it.
 
Chris1712 said:
Pbondar said:
Why do you think specifically the post LCI will retain better residuals...it seems compared to age, mileage, options not to be a major issue IMHO?

Just that the earlier revisions seem more notorious for big issues, HPFP/Turbo problems etc. By the time the facelift came reliability is anecdotally improved. Also the push/pull paddles on the pre-facelift are bloody stupid which personally would stop me getting one along with the old school headlights.

You're right though miles/condition/spec will be more important, like for like there'd probably only be £500 or so in it.

I agree on all your points, the LCI is a convenient 'label' in history although I don't think actually any reliablity related changes co-incided with the LCI..

AFAIK..the injectors were updated but the turbos/wastegates/suspension/HPFP were not?

They are just newer on newer cars?
 
Just my own thoughts but the later cars 2014/2015/2016 being the end of the E89 line might actually have strengthened due to the G29 being so poorly received in general & of course expensive at list price
 
Chris1712 said:
Pbondar said:
Why do you think specifically the post LCI will retain better residuals...it seems compared to age, mileage, options not to be a major issue IMHO?

Just that the earlier revisions seem more notorious for big issues, HPFP/Turbo problems etc. By the time the facelift came reliability is anecdotally improved. Also the push/pull paddles on the pre-facelift are bloody stupid which personally would stop me getting one along with the old school headlights.

You're right though miles/condition/spec will be more important, like for like there'd probably only be £500 or so in it.

Conditions miles and spec will add more then just £500, prices have some way to go before bottoming out I think.
 
Silverstar said:
Conditions miles and spec will add more then just £500, prices have some way to go before bottoming out I think.

That's what I meant, given the same condition/miles/spec an LCI/Pre won't be far apart. I'm chuffed with mine, ticks all the boxes but I'm thinking of changing for changes sake. Problem is you need to spend twice as much money to get anything, and it's definitely not twice as good! Really struggling to find a good successor.
 
The biggest problem is for those using the car as a daily and piling up the miles. Then the car needs to be changed on a regular basis. It is hard to see where you will find that performance at a decent price. For those of us using the car purely for leisure and doing low mileages it isn’t such an issue. Mine has now covered just over 40000 and I will be keeping it for the foreseeable future. :thumbsup:
 
Chris1712 said:
Silverstar said:
Conditions miles and spec will add more then just £500, prices have some way to go before bottoming out I think.

That's what I meant, given the same condition/miles/spec an LCI/Pre won't be far apart. I'm chuffed with mine, ticks all the boxes but I'm thinking of changing for changes sake. Problem is you need to spend twice as much money to get anything, and it's definitely not twice as good! Really struggling to find a good successor.

The only car I would consider replacing my Z4 with right now is a 997 911, as some others on this Forum have done.
 
IRD said:
The biggest problem is for those using the car as a daily and piling up the miles. Then the car needs to be changed on a regular basis. It is hard to see where you will find that performance at a decent price. For those of us using the car purely for leisure and doing low mileages it isn’t such an issue. Mine has now covered just over 40000 and I will be keeping it for the foreseeable future. :thumbsup:

I only do about 8k a year, so won't take a bath on it until the wrong side of 50k I think. Regardless I fancy a change, purely for the sake of change! Then again on paper, I can't find anything that properly beats it without spending north of 40 grand on something, which is a bit scary tbh.

mr wilks said:
Just my own thoughts but the later cars 2014/2015/2016 being the end of the E89 line might actually have strengthened due to the G29 being so poorly received in general & of course expensive at list price
Fingers crossed :driving:. It actually does occupy somewhat of a sweet spot, everyday driveability and reasonable running costs but then loony noise and torque with the roof down. A Boxster S is a lot more money to run, for not a lot more character (if any) and anything more interesting than that is £LOL to run (R8, F-Type R, 911 etc.).

I'm thinking instead to spend 10-15k on a Caterham and grab a runaround for boring duties.
 
Silverstar said:
The only car I would consider replacing my Z4 with right now is a 997 911, as some others on this Forum have done.

I've thought long and hard on that very subject, but for me the 997 just looks really bland and dated inside. I'd prefer a 996, at least they look 'old' now not just dated - but I don't fancy dailying one or the associated running costs.

You need to go C4S to get the widebody right? Have you warrantied yours Mr Wilks?
 
Chris1712 said:
Silverstar said:
The only car I would consider replacing my Z4 with right now is a 997 911, as some others on this Forum have done.

I've thought long and hard on that very subject, but for me the 997 just looks really bland and dated inside. I'd prefer a 996, at least they look 'old' now not just dated - but I don't fancy dailying one or the associated running costs.

You need to go C4S to get the widebody right? Have you warrantied yours Mr Wilks?

C4 /C4S does indeed have the widebody from the turbo 997 , adds approx 40mm to rear track .
Warranty / no i have no warranty in place , some may think that's foolish but its how i have always bought my weekend cars .
I see no difference running a 997 to a ZM or a twin turbo E89 , all 3 have similar service costs re brakes/ fluids/filters & all have well known potential pitfalls .
I treat the search the same as any other used sports car ive bought , deciding factors for me always being -
history - current condition - current owner - mileage - model - spec
I also had a 996 many years back , if you don't like the 997 interior i really can't imagine you liking the previous model inside :? its design & styling was a huge fail & also felt very cheap by comparison to the 997 .
 
Having little or no mechanical skills. Whatever car I owned I wouldn’t have the confidence to be without a decent warranty. I’m a belt and braces sort of a guy. I have read the case for and against warranties but I just feel more comfortable having something in place even if financially it isn’t the best thing to do. I think I must have been brainwashed in my earlier life. :cry:
 
I'm much the same, which puts me off the 911. To get something with the same tickboxes as my 35iS, I'm looking at 45-50 grand in a 997.2 C4S PDK. Just seems crazy when you can get a facelift R8 for that money!
 
Chris1712 said:
I only do about 8k a year, so won't take a bath on it until the wrong side of 50k I think. Regardless I fancy a change, purely for the sake of change! Then again on paper, I can't find anything that properly beats it without spending north of 40 grand on something, which is a bit scary tbh.

Fingers crossed :driving:. It actually does occupy somewhat of a sweet spot, everyday driveability and reasonable running costs but then loony noise and torque with the roof down. A Boxster S is a lot more money to run, for not a lot more character (if any) and anything more interesting than that is £LOL to run (R8, F-Type R, 911 etc.).

I'm thinking instead to spend 10-15k on a Caterham and grab a runaround for boring duties.

I changed for the sake of changing, and then came back lol! The 35is is a hard car to beat especially for the money they go for. The R8 (4.2) is an awfully dull drive. Imo the closest competitor to the 35is is the 4.7 V8 Vantage, that's really worth a look, but the SS auto box is not great, it isn't as fast on the straights, But it is one hell of a place to be, feels so special.
 
In the end. It’s down to what your priorities are, personal choice and of course your finances. Over the years I have changed my cars many times, largely because I simply fancied a change. My wife is always impressed by my reasoning behind the decision to change. She reckons I lie so convincingly I should have been a politician. At times I even believe it myself. I have forgotten how many times I have said “this is a keeper, I am going to hang on to it.” :oops:
 
IRD said:
In the end. It’s down to what your priorities are, personal choice and of course your finances. Over the years I have changed my cars many times, largely because I simply fancied a change. My wife is always impressed by my reasoning behind the decision to change. She reckons I lie so convincingly I should have been a politician. At times I even believe it myself. I have forgotten how many times I have said “this is a keeper, I am going to hang on to it.” :oops:

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Who cares, cars are never a 'good investment' no matter what you buy, age, mileage you are going to lose and spend money hand over fist. So pick a car, buy it - drive it - enjoy it.....
 
I bought a 2010 35is for £15,250 with 61k on nearly 5 years ago,so they arent doing that bad considering.

I had loads of stuff since my 35is.. Jaguar XKR,Couple of Mercedes C63's, Nissan 370z GT,GTR,981 Cayman and currently have a Jaguar F type.

All different and all great in different ways..

I really rated my 35is,i thought it was a stonking car at the time but time and tech moves on...
 
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