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Orange Spots on Paint

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by javis20 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:27 pm

I always getting these orange spots/rings on my paint and it requires excessive effort to remove. I usually need to use a polishing compound to remove them. I tried alcohol but it didn't work very well. Anybody ever see these? And would ceramic coating prevent these from adhering in the first place?
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Post by Boltz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:13 pm

I have seen the orange spots on my cars over the years during the summer months only and I was told it’s bee droppings and I kid you not
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Post by Deepseaskateboard » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Boltz wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:13 pm I have seen the orange spots on my cars over the years during the summer months only and I was told it’s bee droppings and I kid you not
Yep, it is!

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Post by buzyg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:56 pm

You learn something new every day. :thumbsup:
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Post by javis20 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:05 am

But my spots are ringlets...

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Post by flybobbie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:38 am

It's a good job Elephants don't fly!

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Post by Jembo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:38 am

flybobbie wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:38 am It's a good job Elephants don't fly!
Or hump back whales... Bees, in all my years, who’d thought it
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Post by Mister T » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:08 pm

They look like water spots, easiest way to remove them is with a clay bar.

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Post by javis20 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:44 pm

Not water spots, very orange and very stubborn to remove. I might be pollen cooked on the paint but the hot sun.

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Post by Jembo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:19 pm

... trust we all know the white spots if u park in the garage is ceiling spider poo...

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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:50 pm

Oh well, as I haven't got a garage I'll just have to make do with bee droppings! :lol:
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Post by javis20 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:33 pm

Finally figured it out. It's not bee poop, it's just pollen. I live in a rural area with a lot of trees, though I don't park under a tree. Throughout the day and night, pollen and other organic matter dust settles on the car. When morning comes a layer of dew forms on the cars surface. The organic matters starts to dissolve in the dew. When the hot summer sun hits the paint the dew starts to bead up into water droplets with the dissolved pollen. The sun cooks away the water leaving baked on concentrated pollen spots. If you wet them and let them soak you can scratch them off with your finger nail.
The only way to prevent them is by using a car cover or getting up around 7AM and using a product like EcoSmart RU to wipe off the pollen dust before it cooks on the paint. Or, wash the car every morning...
Once it cooks on the paint you really need to soak the spots to remove them with a cleaner of polish. I would suggest getting up around 7AM while the dew is still on the car. The spots will aready have been soaking for a few hours. Wash the car and then spot clean with EcoSmart RU (which seems to dissolve pollen pretty good). Remember to leave the EcoSmart RU soak on the spot before wiping off. The extremely stubborn spots will need to be removed with something like Meguires D300 correction compound on a microfiber towel.

So far I've tried several different waxes and surface treatments including F11 and Meguires ultimate. Nothing prevents it from happening and nothing makes it easier to remove.

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Post by javis20 » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:57 pm

Following-up... Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating significantly improved the removability of the baked on pollen. Washed car, clay barred and then applied one coat. It's lasted almost a year. I'll be recoating this month, but with two coats this time.

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Post by Silverstar » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:05 pm

If the hybrid ceramic spray coating works somewhat then I suspect a proper creamic coating like e.g. Gyeon Mohs or from any other ceramic coating brand would work even better since it essentially creates hard protective finish on top of the paint.
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Post by flybobbie » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:20 pm

Turtle Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating, i tried on my car, didn't really give it enough time to test it out, wasn't that impressed.
Not very shiny, perhaps it needs wax on top.
But i applied to solid paint on a white light aircraft and i'm impressed that it stops atmospheric grime from sticking. Usually a black deposit forms that needs road traffic film remover to remove.
Perhaps i should give it another go on car.

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