E89 Mid range door speakers

Lazza · Post by **Lazza** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:49 pm

I thought there was some kind of coding to set it to “hi-if” or something.
Mind has iDrive and Professional but no tweeters.

JimsZ · Post by **JimsZ** » Fri May 17, 2019 5:52 pm

Little update...

Still driving round with the OEM shi*e dooor speakers, driver door has a "blown" sound occasionally, muffled enough to be annoying some times yet other times it is fine or should I say adequate...

Any how, lots of research later and apart from buying OEM there doesnt seem to be a lot of options as a straight fit upgrade, or so I thought.

I had the drivers door in bits and not only found how limited this speaker fitment is but also found I have no tweeters (No wonder it sounds so Shi*te

) so now I have established this I dug in and kept looking and eventualy stumbed on an Audio shop in Hayes and they do do options for the E sereies BMW and that includes the Z4. I called to discuss and confirm and yes im told most of the units displayed on the web site in the Custom speaker area under BMW will fit however pick whats in your budget and we can confirm.

Any how now to my question, any one upgraded to any of these options in the link and can give feedback on performance.

http://caraudiosecurity.com/speakers-su ... s-e-series

Realistically I dont want to break the bank (Got trackdays n tyres to pay for first priority

) so will probably go for the cheapest with tweeter option but f i n ell thats still a set of Bridgestone V02`s

Might just resort to my wireless over ear HI res headphones and be done with it

JimsZ · Post by **JimsZ** » Fri May 17, 2019 6:10 pm

Dr-Jon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:44 pm I did this on mine, but i just changed them for BMW Mini ones same size but the magnets are far bigger and the sound is much better.
Its also a lot cheaper option as i got them from ebay for under £30 the pair. they still have the extra connections for the tweeters too.

Found these ones on a site recommended earlier in the topic. Assume this is what you got from ebay...

Look good but I guess £125 ish per side is the going rate

Darkbarly · Post by **Darkbarly** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am

Installing Eton B100 n to upgrade door and add tweeters to the existing housing. Its a base system originally so 6 speakers. Do I need to add crossovers?

The kit comes with a connector from the midrange to the tweeter, but the compatibility chart and instructions on the eton site says add a crossover...its not very clear.

Pbondar · Post by **Pbondar** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:36 pm

Darkbarly wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am Installing Eton B100 n to upgrade door and add tweeters to the existing housing. Its a base system originally so 6 speakers. Do I need to add crossovers?

The kit comes with a connector from the midrange to the tweeter, but the compatibility chart and instructions on the eton site says add a crossover...its not very clear.

No you don’t if you but the correct version the tweeters sit in parallel to the mid range ...AFAIK as I’m planning to do an Eton upgrade to my 11 speaker variant..

Darkbarly · Post by **Darkbarly** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:21 am

Pbondar ta. Will wire it in see how fares without xovers...

Pbondar · Post by **Pbondar** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:53 am

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ETON-B100N-2-W ... 5742&psc=1

These seem like the correct ones

Darkbarly · Post by **Darkbarly** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:11 am

100N is about 4/5mm to deep for the door recess BUT they are in and sound much better even before being broken in. Eton website states the 100N are E89 compatible but only just. Tweeters fit fine. Staggered how cheap/nasty the base door speakers are, will work my way round the rest of the car now....

JimsZ · Post by **JimsZ** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:55 am

Darkbarly wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:11 am 100N is about 4/5mm to deep for the door recess BUT they are in and sound much better even before being broken in. Eton website states the 100N are E89 compatible but only just. Tweeters fit fine. Staggered how cheap/nasty the base door speakers are, will work my way round the rest of the car now....

What did you do to make the 4/5mm fit as would like to buy these if the mod is an easy thing to do.

Pbondar · Post by **Pbondar** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:16 am

Darkbarly wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:11 am 100N is about 4/5mm to deep for the door recess BUT they are in and sound much better even before being broken in. Eton website states the 100N are E89 compatible but only just. Tweeters fit fine. Staggered how cheap/nasty the base door speakers are, will work my way round the rest of the car now....

Darkbarly · Post by **Darkbarly** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:34 am

What did you do to make the 4/5mm fit as would like to buy these if the mod is an easy thing to do.

The original 3 mounting screws are just long enough to fit the new, deeper 100n upgrade midrange speakers into my 2015 e89. The door card refits easily with the speakers 4/5mm proud of the originals. Would recommend slightly longer screws if you wish

JimsZ · Post by **JimsZ** » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:13 pm

Darkbarly wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:34 am
What did you do to make the 4/5mm fit as would like to buy these if the mod is an easy thing to do.
The original 3 mounting screws are just long enough to fit the new, deeper 100n upgrade midrange speakers into my 2015 e89. The door card refits easily with the speakers 4/5mm proud of the originals. Would recommend slightly longer screws if you wish

I'm sold

Do you use any specific tools for removing the door card?

Darkbarly · Post by **Darkbarly** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:15 am

Standard trim tools off the internet. Theres several videos on you tube to help. Do not pull it off like a certain gorilla in a bavarian sound specialist vid otherwise you will break clips. I bought some clips from leicester bmw online jic but didnt need them. t20 and t30 bits to remove the screws. Let it hang gently on the wiring looms while the speakers were changed, they are well secured

enzed4 · Post by **enzed4** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:39 pm

Just a quick check. I looked into component 4" speakers for the doors but they seem a lot more expensive and not locally available. If I buy 2-way (coaxial) speakers and cut the wires to the tweeters (they're easily accessible on the model I'm buying) would this work ok, or would it be better to cut the connections to the BMW tweeters in the doors and just use the ones in the coaxial speakers (as they're designed to work with those speakers and I'm assuming will have crossovers setup correctly for them)?

Pbondar · Post by **Pbondar** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:07 pm

enzed4 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:39 pm Just a quick check. I looked into component 4" speakers for the doors but they seem a lot more expensive and not locally available. If I buy 2-way (coaxial) speakers and cut the wires to the tweeters (they're easily accessible on the model I'm buying) would this work ok, or would it be better to cut the connections to the BMW tweeters in the doors and just use the ones in the coaxial speakers (as they're designed to work with those speakers and I'm assuming will have crossovers setup correctly for them)?

Keep the co-axials intact!

Predantics may waffle on about spatial imaging etc but its KISS

There are many negative issues with your proposed cut n snip approach..

All IMHO

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