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Flappy paddles

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Hunter » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:34 pm

What year did the flappy paddles change from both sides doing change up / down, to right to change up and left down?
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Post by john-e89 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:54 pm

Pretty sure it was 2013.
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Post by greg81 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:24 pm

Are the later ones a straight retro fit to the older cars?

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Post by Hunter » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:43 pm

john-e89 wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:54 pm Pretty sure it was 2013.
Mine is a 2012 car pre LCI and it has them
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Post by john-e89 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:02 pm

Hunter wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:43 pm
john-e89 wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:54 pm Pretty sure it was 2013.
Mine is a 2012 car pre LCI and it has them
Looks like they’ve been changed then, unless it was late 2012.

To Greg, yes you can swap them easily to earlier cars. In fact I bought a set the other day to retro fit.
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Post by Himi » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:16 pm

Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again

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Post by cerbera » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:47 pm

Himi wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:16 pm Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again
Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.

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Post by Lazza » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:26 pm

cerbera wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:47 pm
Himi wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:16 pm Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again
Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.
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Post by syyzed » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:59 pm

Lazza wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:26 pm
cerbera wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:47 pm
Himi wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:16 pm Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again
Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.
I just keep mine in normal drive (with sport button on obviously) and use the paddles to change gear, the car switches back to full auto after about 10 seconds or so. I find that the S-mode revs too high and doesn't make the most of the torque band so prefer to change myself :)
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Post by Lazza » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:10 am

syyzed wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:59 pm
Lazza wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:26 pm
cerbera wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:47 pm
Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.
I just keep mine in normal drive (with sport button on obviously) and use the paddles to change gear, the car switches back to full auto after about 10 seconds or so. I find that the S-mode revs too high and doesn't make the most of the torque band so prefer to change myself :)
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
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Post by Busterboo » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:49 am

Lazza wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:10 am Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
You must have a different DCT box from mine, then. :)
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Post by Beeacon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:53 am

Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
Mine does exactly this, as Lazza says.
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Post by eff1guy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:50 am

Beeacon wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:53 am
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there.
Mine does exactly this, as Lazza says.
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Post by Lazza » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:02 am

Busterboo wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:49 am
Lazza wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:10 am Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
You must have a different DCT box from mine, then. :)
In what way mate? What dies yours do differently?
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Post by Busterboo » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:19 am

Lazza wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:02 am
Busterboo wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:49 am
Lazza wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:10 am Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
In 'Sport', does yours default from paddle to 'auto' in about 8 seconds?
In 'Sport S', do your steering, suspension, engine & gearbox responses change?
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