Tbh I found the opposite when I tried a 28i, the lighter front end just makes the E89 steering even more vague, you can tell it’s lighter yes cornering but that also hinders handling as well, it jumped about more, I really didn’t like it. The roofs weight is central moving to rear so the extra weight of the 35 engine helps with balance is all I can contribute it to. Safe to say I came away thinking the 35 is the better steering and handling car, to me anyway, I’m sure others have a different opinion.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
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Less weight over the nose is always a bad thing (unless it’s a Porsche)john-e89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:30 pmTbh I found the opposite when I tried a 28i, the lighter front end just makes the E89 steering even more vague, you can tell it’s lighter yes, but that also hinders handling as well, it jumped about more, I really didn’t like it. The roofs weight is central moving to rear so the extra weight of the 35 engine helps with balance is all I can contribute it to. Safe to say I came away thinking the 35 is the better steering and handling car, to me anyway, I’m sure others have a different opinion.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
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That was with the 28i on 18’s and mine on 19’s as well Robmero...Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:32 pmLess weight over the nose is always a bad thing (unless it’s a Porsche)john-e89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:30 pmTbh I found the opposite when I tried a 28i, the lighter front end just makes the E89 steering even more vague, you can tell it’s lighter yes, but that also hinders handling as well, it jumped about more, I really didn’t like it. The roofs weight is central moving to rear so the extra weight of the 35 engine helps with balance is all I can contribute it to. Safe to say I came away thinking the 35 is the better steering and handling car, to me anyway, I’m sure others have a different opinion.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
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A lot of this handling malarkey is subjective & feel is something that can vary enormously between different drivers.john-e89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:38 pmThat was with the 28i on 18’s and mine on 19’s as well Robmero...Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:32 pmLess weight over the nose is always a bad thing (unless it’s a Porsche)john-e89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:30 pm Tbh I found the opposite when I tried a 28i, the lighter front end just makes the E89 steering even more vague, you can tell it’s lighter yes, but that also hinders handling as well, it jumped about more, I really didn’t like it. The roofs weight is central moving to rear so the extra weight of the 35 engine helps with balance is all I can contribute it to. Safe to say I came away thinking the 35 is the better steering and handling car, to me anyway, I’m sure others have a different opinion.
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Personally I think the weight of your wallet must be pinning the nose of your Boxster to the ground
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Indeed it does vary, one man’s pile of junk is another man’s pile of treasure....
Weight of my wallet....??
You’ve seen my MR sale thread cos I’m skint, right bear.....??
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“Skintness” is very subjective as welljohn-e89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:56 pmIndeed it does vary, one man’s pile of junk is another man’s pile of treasure....
Weight of my wallet....??
You’ve seen my MR sale thread cos I’m skint, right bear.....??
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I ain’t the one retired at 50 something with a pocket full of cash from a broken toe nail you nancy....
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Pbondar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:27 pmThere have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...
Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..
The only thing that has put me off has been the negative press the N20 engine gets, is it as bad as the internet makes out?Pbondar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:27 pmThere have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...
Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..
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But I’m the one that’s got to live with my aspiring ballet career that’s been cruelly cut short
Not got a bean yet either
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I’d say not, I’ve heard of the odd car that’s expired but some of those seem to be due to backstreet remapping often giving bonkers power hikes.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:07 pmPbondar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:27 pmThere have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...
Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..The only thing that has put me off has been the negative press the N20 engine gets, is it as bad as the internet makes out?Pbondar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:27 pmThere have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.HaiderGilll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...
The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...
Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..
They seem less prone to injector/fuel pump issues than the 35i/35is cars as they’re different components sourced from other bmw models and seem reliable in those respects
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Cruelly cut short..?? Done the ballet world a favour.......
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They must owe me millions by now
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Actually according to BMW USA the primary reason why the injectors don't fail is to a revised design of cooling passages in the head which lowers the temperatures that the injectors are exposed to..
Fuel pump is a later design and benefits from hindsight which is usually the advantage of later variants of a design..
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Part of the issue with 6 pot design is that not only is a heavier lump a lot of the weight and its ancillaries is in front of the front axle whilst the N20 engine and its bits are all behind the front axle..
I think Porsche showed the 'benefit' of hanging weight outside the axles!