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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by dgm » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:53 am

Except that winter tyres aren’t exclusively for snow, they’re cold weather tyres. Whether they’re worth having in the East Midlands is a separate issue.
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Post by enzed4 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:58 am

Bah, winter can kiss my snowballs.... :x
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Post by Phoenixboy » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:01 pm

buzyg wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:01 pm Not much snow up on Dartmoor today. :cry:

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Made up for it with 70mph winds and -22c wind chill though. :o

I loved it. :D Left the Zed at home though and took the Clio. Less to dig out. :wink:

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Post by ronk » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:11 pm

£1500 ???
Somebody has been pulling ya chain!
They don’t charge that at the BMW main dealer for a set of 18“ BMW rims and Prelli Sottozeros
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Post by buzyg » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 pm

enzed4 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:58 am Bah, winter can kiss my snowballs.... :x
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Now that's proper snow. :D :thumbsup:
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Post by mcbutler » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:17 pm

ronk wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:54 am
Z4Rick wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:37 pmI gotta tell you guys, I am getting a laugh out of this thread. Here in Snow Country, USA, we get 4-6 storms like you are seeing every year. I use Blizzacks in up to 6" when the Z4 turns into a snow plow and needs to be parked, and the 4X4 fired up. After 30 years of driving in the mountains, snow is never an issue, (up to about 6"). MOMENTUM is the key, NEVER use the power, but finesse only enough speed to keep rolling, and you'll look like Lewis Hamilton to the sideways drivers. Stopping and starting is DEATH. Keep rolling, don't spin wheels, and you'll get home....

Unless you are on performance dry weather skins, in which case you are pretty well screwed and should have stayed home....

I suspect the biggest threat are the thousands of OTHER drivers who don't get much seat time in snowy conditions...Z4 owners learn how to drive sideways in their first few hundred miles anyhow, so they know what to look for!

Good Luck Mates....be careful - they aren't making any more of these!

I’m not suprised you laugh - Europe and Scandanavia must get the giggles as well. The UK gets a dusting and we grind to a halt . Most of the problem is folk insist on using the same tyres summer and winter then wonder why they get stuck and boast they can drive according to the conditions!
Agreed, its pathetic. My wife is Moldovian, we frequently travel to Kiev/Moscow etc to visit relatives. In Moscow you can have several metres of snow and no-one bats an eyelid. You can jump on a train or a plane and get a bus to work. During one stay in Moscow the temperature swung from -32C over night to +14C in the sun the next day. It's literally crazy, you can hear birch trees 'exploding' as they freeze in the forests occasionally.
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Post by sad_old_man » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:16 pm

So there is some benefit to living North of Watford Gap? Here in Blackpool its been top down on Monday in the sun, slight snowfall on Tuesday night maybe half an inch or so but all gone by 3pm so top down again in the sun, top down again on Wednesday and Thursday and today its just been sunny but too windy to put the top down.

Anyway while i am enjoying driving around in the sunshine with the top down eating the best pies and pasties in the world please take care all of you that live in and around the worst hit areas of the UK. Listening to the members comments about driving in snow at least gives me reassurance that we know how to drive correctly but there are hundreds of others that struggle to drive in July and August but still insist on driving in these conditions. Take care and stay safe.

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Post by Z4Rick » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:58 pm

dgm wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:53 am Except that winter tyres aren’t exclusively for snow, they’re cold weather tyres. Whether they’re worth having in the East Midlands is a separate issue.
This is a big deal. Michelin has told me that their SS Pilots get "real greasy" when temps fall below 45 deg. F, due to their rubber compound being maximized for racing. In use, I have found that to be true. I could not take corners as fast with the summer tires once the track had cooled off, and my lap times showed it. Cost me about 5 seconds on a 2.5 mile track. Changed tires that night to winters and my times improved back to my normal mediocre level the next day.

Cold weather tires go on in October.

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Post by Busterboo » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:25 pm

ronk wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:11 pm £1500 ???
Somebody has been pulling ya chain!
They don’t charge that at the BMW main dealer for a set of 18“ BMW rims and Prelli Sottozeros
I'll bet it's a lot more than a grand.
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Post by Busterboo » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:33 pm

dgm wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:53 am Except that winter tyres aren’t exclusively for snow, they’re cold weather tyres. Whether they’re worth having in the East Midlands is a separate issue.
Mmm, there's some fine logic there - 'fine' in the sense of 'delicate' and 'not strong' - that might escape many people. :)
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Post by Busterboo » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:46 pm

Z4Rick wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:58 pm Michelin has told me that their SS Pilots get "real greasy" when temps fall below 45 deg. F, due to their rubber compound being maximized for racing. In use, I have found that to be true. I could not take corners as fast with the summer tires once the track had cooled off, and my lap times showed it. Cost me about 5 seconds on a 2.5 mile track. Changed tires that night to winters and my times improved back to my normal mediocre level the next day.

Cold weather tires go on in October.
"45 degrees F"? Where do you live?

If it's England, Wales or Northern Ireland, you're changing too early.
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Post by ronk » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:13 pm

Busterboo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:25 pm
ronk wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:11 pm £1500 ???
Somebody has been pulling ya chain!
They don’t charge that at the BMW main dealer for a set of 18“ BMW rims and Prelli Sottozeros
I'll bet it's a lot more than a grand.
Not a lot more even retail price - I got the kit for my wife’s 335xd directly from the dealer and got some extra discount as I was spending a good wedge on a new 35is

Normally I would buy used but there are specialist who do deals on aftermarket wheels.
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Post by Z4Rick » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:16 pm

Busterboo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:46 pm
I live at 3,000 feet in the mountains of western Maryland, and we've had snow in early October several times with nighttime temps routinely in the 30's. I change tires based on temps, not the calendar.

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Post by Busterboo » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:10 pm

Z4Rick wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:16 pm
Busterboo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:46 pm
I live at 3,000 feet in the mountains of western Maryland, and we've had snow in early October several times with nighttime temps routinely in the 30's. I change tires based on temps, not the calendar.
I thought it didn't sound like Manchester. :)
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Post by mcbutler » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:19 am

Z4Rick wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:16 pm
Busterboo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:46 pm
I live at 3,000 feet in the mountains of western Maryland, and we've had snow in early October several times with nighttime temps routinely in the 30's. I change tires based on temps, not the calendar.
If your using deg F no one apart from you guys in the US and I believe Burma will know what your talking about. I had to find a conversion table online. Sounds like you live in a very beautiful place up in the mountains there.
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