Z4M or 35is ?

[step_change]

I went through this paralysis by analysis too for about 5 seconds and decided on the 35is. There really is no right and wrong answer and everyone is influenced by different inputs that are relevant to them.
Coming from a 10 year old E85 I wanted something a bit more modern, recent and comfortable. I considered the Z4M but they are all ten years plus old now. Some may scoff at such a concern; maybe a ten year old car is considered a "classic" to them. And good for them. But to to me it isn't, it's a minus as I prefer a more modern car. So, it's all very personal and subjective.
We all think differently.

[sachak]

I'm not sure what all this z4m is more fun than 35i or 35is is all about. The 35i/is is VERY fun to drive. I have had allot of BMW's and 3 super bikes and although my super bikes were very fun on and off the track they were also very stressful to ride on the road as you never know what could go wrong every time you twist that accelerator, be it loose gravel or a bit of oil/diesel on the road or some idiot SUV doing what SUV's love doing....being idiots.

The z4 35i for me is like a super bike with 4 wheels, all the fun and speed of a super bike but all the safety that a super bike lacks. It's Especially fun with a stage 2+ MHD map. It sounds amazing and with that adaptive suspension in sports mode it handles very well but the way it takes off with that beautiful spooling up turbo sound makes it a beautiful exciting driving experience. It's got a seriously good looking beautiful interior that is very comfortable with all the bells and whistles and the DCT box is just the cherry on top. What a machine is all I can say.
It also has the looks on the exterior, For me personally it is hands down the most beautiful car BMW has ever made. It was a dream car for me from the day it was released and I still find myself spending extra time in my garage just looking at it on a very regular basis. When ever I park it and walk away I always turn around to have a good look at it as it really is such a beautiful piece of art!

Go drive both cars, everyone has their own personal preference but I would be hard pressed to hear that you prefer the older model after sitting in the 35i/is

[Philly_Sweden]

I'm not sure what all this z4m is more fun than 35i or 35is is all about. The 35i/is is VERY fun to drive. I have had allot of BMW's and 3 super bikes and although my super bikes were very fun on and off the track they were also very stressful to ride on the road as you never know what could go wrong every time you twist that accelerator, be it loose gravel or a bit of oil/diesel on the road or some idiot SUV doing what SUV's love doing....being idiots.

The z4 35i for me is like a super bike with 4 wheels, all the fun and speed of a super bike but all the safety that a super bike lacks. It's Especially fun with a stage 2+ MHD map. It sounds amazing and with that adaptive suspension in sports mode it handles very well but the way it takes off with that beautiful spooling up turbo sound makes it a beautiful exciting driving experience. It's got a seriously good looking beautiful interior that is very comfortable with all the bells and whistles and the DCT box is just the cherry on top. What a machine is all I can say.
It also has the looks on the exterior, For me personally it is hands down the most beautiful car BMW has ever made. It was a dream car for me from the day it was released and I still find myself spending extra time in my garage just looking at it on a very regular basis. When ever I park it and walk away I always turn around to have a good look at it as it really is such a beautiful piece of art!

Go drive both cars, everyone has their own personal preference but I would be hard pressed to hear that you prefer the older model after sitting in the 35i/is

I agree with you. It all comes down to the purpose of the car. If you want a track car and are choosing between Z4M-35i/is I would say that the E86 is better to start with.

If you want a fast and nice GT/Cruiser. Go for the E89.

I have had 8 M cars and I would still say that the E89 is on off the better ones I've owend even though it's not a M.

[Gaffa22]

I have had 8 M cars and I would still say that the E89 is on off the better ones I've owend even though it's not a M.

That's good to know Philly

[jimmybell]

Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.

[jimbo1958]

I went through this paralysis by analysis too for about 5 seconds and decided on the 35is. There really is no right and wrong answer and everyone is influenced by different inputs that are relevant to them.
Coming from a 10 year old E85 I wanted something a bit more modern, recent and comfortable. I considered the Z4M but they are all ten years plus old now. Some may scoff at such a concern; maybe a ten year old car is considered a "classic" to them. And good for them. But to to me it isn't, it's a minus as I prefer a more modern car. So, it's all very personal and subjective.
We all think differently.

Pretty much somes up my move to the 35i from my much loved E85 3 year ago.

[step_change]

Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.

Er, because this is a Z4 forum and we are all interested. That's why. No one is pedalling anything, we are sharing opinions. AKA discussing, on a Z4 discussion forum.

[jimmybell]

Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.

Er, because this is a Z4 forum and we are all interested. That's why. No one is pedalling anything, we are sharing opinions. AKA discussing, on a Z4 discussion forum.

my bad, cant find any examples of ‘buy what i bought!’ advice in this thread.

[Lazza]

my bad, cant find any examples of ‘buy what i bought!’ advice in this thread.

I have a 35i. It’s great. Get one of those.

[BMWZ4MC]

Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.

As above - although they overlap in many ways, the best attributes of each car differs significantly from those of the other. Decide what you want from a car and test both.
I love my ///M but it’s the rawness that makes it so special. I’ve modified it to make it an absolutely stonking track car and that hugely compromises the ride on badly made roads, but I love it for and despite that. The manual gearbox demands of its driver and rewards in a way that DCT never will, but it doesn’t tolerate clumsiness or inattention. I’ve beaten GT3s on the track and almost killed myself on a wet road.... I’m glad my wife doesn’t want to drive it because I’d be terrified for her every time she did so.
On the other hand, I’d love a 35is (as well) as a seriously quick and comfortable modern open top tourer. I’d fit an LSD, have it remapped and release a little more noise, then drive everywhere with a big grin on my face. Most importantly I wouldn’t feel like it’s hiding behind a tree waiting to kill me the second I let my guard down!

[ronk]

Re the 35is - Don’t worry about the noise !
It’s plenty loud enough - I only wish it had a stealth mode.
I would say that even if the car is driven well within its limits it’s well outside the limits the law would allow and my limits/ability tend to be lower than the cars capability!

[step_change]

The 35is is rocket powered, it is astonishing, coming from a 2.5 E85 (which itself was a great car). Sure the Clarkson's of this world and the motoring intelligentsia may knock it but for 99% of drivers on ordinary roads it goes like s**t off a shovel and corners like an housefly. All with reasonable running costs and it looks out of this world. What is there not to like?
Yeah, I like the Z4M too.
Horses for courses, one man's meat is another's poison and a million other cliches....!

[Nanu]

my bad, cant find any examples of ‘buy what i bought!’ advice in this thread.

I have a 35i. It’s great. Get one of those.

What he said

[Mad Professor]

If you want another super fast modern car with a folding roof then the E89 is where its at .
If you want to own a modern classic with the historic S54 power plant , to go for an occasional blat when its sunny and you may have both the time and the inclination ,which wont depreciate , and have a sense of occasion every time you take it out , and a rag top ,then its the E85 . Bottom line they are both fine cars so you really cant go wrong either way .
If you want the finest handling car ,which will make your fingers tingle and give you an inane grin for hours , sounds truly epic on full chat , and everyone will smile and wave at you [they wont do that with any Z ] , will make you feel happy , alive and vulnerable all at the same time , which is utterly impractical , will give you tinnitus on a long run ,then buy a Caterham .

[BMWZ4MC]

If you want another super fast modern car with a folding roof then the E89 is where its at .
If you want to own a modern classic with the historic S54 power plant , to go for an occasional blat when its sunny and you may have both the time and the inclination ,which wont depreciate , and have a sense of occasion every time you take it out , and a coupe ,then its the E86 . Bottom line they are both fine cars so you really cant go wrong either way .
If you want the finest handling car ,which will make your fingers tingle and give you an inane grin for hours , sounds truly epic on full chat , and everyone will smile and wave at you [they wont do that with any Z ] , will make you feel happy , alive and vulnerable all at the same time , which is utterly impractical , will give you tinnitus on a long run ,then buy a Westfield .

Professor, you stand corrected by a carpenter

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