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Just a note about winter tyres....

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Post by Kugaman1 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:17 pm

I try not to use the Z during this weather, mainly as is so low it gets totally caked in road salt/snow.

Where possible I try to use the wife’s Golf GTE and go into work on electric.

However for the past couple of days I’ve had no choice but to use the Z. I’m currently running it on 17” BMW alloys with Pirelli winter RFTs. I really wouldn’t have gone with winter RFTs but the package was a good deal so I went for it.

Have to say, wow, really impressed!! There have been several times where I’ve had to crawl up a snow covered hill at slow speed and the wheels haven’t slipped once! Not even had the traction control light on, unless I really boot it.

Anyone else singing the benefits of winter tyres?

Here’s the winters.....
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Can’t wait for the spring and get back to these....have got a set of none RFT Continentals ready to go on the 326s....
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:51 pm

Yes, though not on E89. I wouldn't be without a set anymore, once you've felt and seen the difference you can't go back!
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Post by HillWalker » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:00 pm

What size are your Continental non runflats ? I'll be getting rid of the runflats in spring although they've only done 6000 miles, 255/35 rear but not sure if to risk 225/40 fronts, have read some people having rubbing problems with the 225/40s, the car is only used in the summer months and driven fairly steadily, just looking for more comfort.

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Post by Ducklakeview » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:03 pm

I swap to winters around Oct, but on my van lol - Can't have anything stopping me getting to the shop/cash & carry, and so far have been very impressed. Used to put them on my XC90 in winter too, and that was unstoppable, even towing a couple of our drivers out of ditches etc in the snow. They really do make that much difference!

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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:32 pm

I've put Michelin winters on my E46 each winter for 3 years now - probably why we've not had any snow down here! :)
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Post by Cookie » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:15 am

I have a set of none RF winters which usually go on end of November and come off end of March and have done ever since I bought the car, just over 3 years ago and this is the first year we have had any snow to try them out. I was apprehensive when I bought them, even after watching many sales videos and YouTube and I can honestly say now, they are great. As said previously if you drive to the conditions you can’t fault them.
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Post by Kugaman1 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:35 am

HillWalker wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:00 pmWhat size are your Continental non runflats ? I'll be getting rid of the runflats in spring although they've only done 6000 miles, 255/35 rear but not sure if to risk 225/40 fronts, have read some people having rubbing problems with the 225/40s, the car is only used in the summer months and driven fairly steadily, just looking for more comfort.
Gone for 255/35 rear and 225/40 fronts.

I cannot believe that with genuine BMW wheels, going from 35 profile to 40 profile on the fronts will cause rubbing? Surely they aren’t that close to the arch liners? I mean there’s less than an inch in overall tyre size so the top of the tyre will be less than half an inch closer to the liner.
They are exactly the same width, so I’m sure it will be fine? I hope! Will soon find out in the spring!
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Post by mcbeee » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:27 am

A quick note about “traction control” in snow. Turn it off until you are going well, the TC will not allow wheel spin so you get stuck , turning it off when you start allows you to control the slippage and get going. Of course, flooring the go pedal will not work, but a little controlled spinning does work.
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Post by Nictrix » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:49 am

I have them on the X6 and the last few days have shown that they really do work.
My house is on a slight slope and in this sort of weather the street is always hard packed ice.
Cars struggle to get up this slope with wheels spinning and sometimes having to take runs at it or get a push.
I leave the driveway and am able to just drive straight up the hill with no slipping and sliding at all.
A few years ago a taxi driver was stuck outside our house for 2 hours trying to get out the street. Once we were up and out of bed we gave him a shove and he was on his way.
With winter tyres though you have to remind yourself that the roads are slippy and keep the speed down even though you cant feel it.
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Post by HillWalker » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 am

Kugaman1 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:35 am
HillWalker wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:00 pmWhat size are your Continental non runflats ? I'll be getting rid of the runflats in spring although they've only done 6000 miles, 255/35 rear but not sure if to risk 225/40 fronts, have read some people having rubbing problems with the 225/40s, the car is only used in the summer months and driven fairly steadily, just looking for more comfort.
Gone for 255/35 rear and 225/40 fronts.

I cannot believe that with genuine BMW wheels, going from 35 profile to 40 profile on the fronts will cause rubbing? Surely they aren’t that close to the arch liners? I mean there’s less than an inch in overall tyre size so the top of the tyre will be less than half an inch closer to the liner.
They are exactly the same width, so I’m sure it will be fine? I hope! Will soon find out in the spring!
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Thanks for that Kugaman1, that's some very good information do let's us know when you've fitted them on your opinion of the ride quality etc,I'm now even more tempted to go for those sizes.
What version of Continental's have you gone for ? thanks.

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Post by Kugaman1 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:17 pm

Hi Hillwalker.

I went for continental sport contact 5.

Normally I would go for something a bit more mid range like Kumho or Nexen etc, but I got offered these Contis locally at an amazing price so I went for them.

Had lots of Contis on new cars, like the S3, Golf GTI, Kuga, etc and been really impressed with them in all conditions.

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Post by mcbutler » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:40 pm

Kugaman1 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:17 pmI try not to use the Z during this weather, mainly as is so low it gets totally caked in road salt/snow.

Where possible I try to use the wife’s Golf GTE and go into work on electric.

However for the past couple of days I’ve had no choice but to use the Z. I’m currently running it on 17” BMW alloys with Pirelli winter RFTs. I really wouldn’t have gone with winter RFTs but the package was a good deal so I went for it.

Have to say, wow, really impressed!! There have been several times where I’ve had to crawl up a snow covered hill at slow speed and the wheels haven’t slipped once! Not even had the traction control light on, unless I really boot it.

Anyone else singing the benefits of winter tyres?

Here’s the winters.....
81E6B65A-89ED-49EB-9E0C-895E8FCA7EC7.jpeg


Can’t wait for the spring and get back to these....have got a set of none RFT Continentals ready to go on the 326s....
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Nope, not seen real snow in Devon for years now.....
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Post by mcbutler » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:41 pm

Driving a manual helps.
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Post by philiph » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:32 pm

I have used winter tyres for six years now.
They work very well in slippy conditions.

On the daily workhorse I've gone for a set of Michelin cross climate. Saves the aggro of seasonal changes. So far very impressed.
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Post by Smartbear » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:56 pm

philiph wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:32 pmI have used winter tyres for six years now.
They work very well in slippy conditions.

On the daily workhorse I've gone for a set of Michelin cross climate. Saves the aggro of seasonal changes. So far very impressed.
Same here, not been out in any terrible weather to put them to the test yet :driving:
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