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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Nictrix » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:06 pm

ronk wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:45 pm I thought the E89 has the Tpms sensors? My 2016 car has them, although I can’t remember if my previous 2010 E89 was Tpms or wheel sensor based.
They changed at some point around 2014 I think. The later ones have sensors in the valves.
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Post by ronk » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:16 pm

Nictrix wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:06 pm
ronk wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:45 pm I thought the E89 has the Tpms sensors? My 2016 car has them, although I can’t remember if my previous 2010 E89 was Tpms or wheel sensor based.
They changed at some point around 2014 I think. The later ones have sensors in the valves.
That makes sense :thumbsup:
As mine has the Tpms I’m reluctant to put the jollop into the wheel without knowing if it will screw up the hardware.
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Post by Captain Vimes » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:45 pm

If you really want to ensure the ‘cockwomble’ gets his comeuppance, just drop an email complaint to the CEO of his firm explaining why you will never go back to that service center, and neither with the thousands of members of the Z4 forum now you have shared your experience. 🙂

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Post by Pbondar » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm

ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm Tyre pressure monitoring is done through the ABS sensor - it basically detects if the wheel on one side is spinning at a different speed to the other (which it does if the pressure drops as the diameter changes slightly).
That’s only true of first generation TPMS....E89 use second generation...measures actual pressure...gloop doesn’t affect them...

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Post by ronk » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 pm

Pbondar wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm
ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm Tyre pressure monitoring is done through the ABS sensor - it basically detects if the wheel on one side is spinning at a different speed to the other (which it does if the pressure drops as the diameter changes slightly).

That’s only true of first generation TPMS....E89 use second generation...measures actual pressure...gloop doesn’t affect them...
Is that from experience Peter?
I have some in the boot along with a small compressor incase of a dire emergency (ie puncture in Germany _ they won't repair a runflat there) but would rather avoid goosing a bit of hardware.
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Post by Pbondar » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:05 pm

ronk wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 pm
Pbondar wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm
ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm Tyre pressure monitoring is done through the ABS sensor - it basically detects if the wheel on one side is spinning at a different speed to the other (which it does if the pressure drops as the diameter changes slightly).
The TPMS sensor is a sealed unit so some gloop should have no impaact...its a partial theory as I did try it out on SWMBO F56 Mini that has a similar system but the tyre was unrecoverable...however no issue with any of her sensors thereafter which are very similar to the E89 sensors..


That’s only true of first generation TPMS....E89 use second generation...measures actual pressure...gloop doesn’t affect them...

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Post by ronk » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:34 pm

Thanks. I feel more confident now :thumbsup:
Now to source the best gloop!
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Post by Lazza » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:01 pm

Pbondar wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm
ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm Tyre pressure monitoring is done through the ABS sensor - it basically detects if the wheel on one side is spinning at a different speed to the other (which it does if the pressure drops as the diameter changes slightly).
That’s only true of first generation TPMS....E89 use second generation...measures actual pressure...gloop doesn’t affect them...
Not all. My 2009 E89 definitely doesn't have tyre pressure sensors, just ABS wheel speed sensors.
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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:27 pm

ronk wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:34 pm Now to source the best gloop!
Based on what I have read I bought Holts Tyre Weld - thankfully I haven't needed it yet! :)
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Post by Pbondar » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:17 pm

Lazza wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:01 pm
Pbondar wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm
ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm Tyre pressure monitoring is done through the ABS sensor - it basically detects if the wheel on one side is spinning at a different speed to the other (which it does if the pressure drops as the diameter changes slightly).
That’s only true of first generation TPMS....E89 use second generation...measures actual pressure...gloop doesn’t affect them...
Not all. My 2009 E89 definitely doesn't have tyre pressure sensors, just ABS wheel speed sensors.
Looks like 8/2010 was the last manufacturing date of the ABS based versions... :thumbsup:

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Post by Adil_3 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:47 pm

Captain Vimes wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:45 pm If you really want to ensure the ‘cockwomble’ gets his comeuppance, just drop an email complaint to the CEO of his firm explaining why you will never go back to that service center, and neither with the thousands of members of the Z4 forum now you have shared your experience. 🙂
Hahahha, i would but its been a few days now no tyre pressure light come up and i have to say my car hasnt felt this good ever. Ive left them a review expressing their customer service and alot of other people have agreed with myself. The problem is they actually do a good job, just their service... ive sent an email to the manager of the store, with a link to people skills training course located near the shop. So hopefully that will help

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Post by Hunter » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:08 pm

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A puncture i had last week, non runflat on a bumpy road resulted in 3 cracks to my alloy. A 3 mile walk, a morning off work and a load of hassle..but i still wouldn't go back to run flats.
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Post by HillWalker » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:22 pm

That's not a puncture it's a catastrophic tyre failure, tyre pressures springs to mind :o

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Post by rally-chris » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:47 pm

Or just an attempt to keep driving on a flat non runflat for a distance after the puncture lost all air...
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Post by ronk » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:50 pm

I’ll stick with the Run Flats - warts and all!

Ive not found them as bad as the majority say and on holiday in Germany the current car (35is) was arrow straight at 140+
The previous E89 (3.0l) however was “nervous “ at circa 100/120mph

Apart from anything else mrs K says it’s Driving Miss Daisy/UK speeds on the Autobahn if I go non Runflats.
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