Heel and toe...

[Kingash]

Trying to learn this technique, only problem I have is my feet seem to big and the pedals are at the wrong height?

Is this just me with this problem? Size 12 feet, 6ft 3"

Car is a z4m, can't remember if the pedals are different to my 3l coupe and i didn't try it.

[abar121]

On mine, the throttle is about 2cm lower than would be ideal. I just put a black alloy pedal cover on the throttle.

It's now at the right height

Puma speed cats are pretty good for feel and don't overhang yer feet too much.

Have fun practising.

[Paulwirral]

I learnt on buckets of crap that wouldn't tick over or would stall , think capris escorts and cortinas of the early 80s , it's second nature to the extent of people always comment on it , bike riders especially .
Instead of trying to do it driving quickly when your concentrating on other things do it every time you stop at a junction or lights , pretend your car will cut out when stopping , you will soon get into the habit and then transfer it to driving quickly , it worked for me

[Kingash]

I was trying to practice just on the driveway after watching a few vids of the technique and i just can't get my foot in the angles, the throttle is a tad low, maybe I need a plate or something

i used to ride bikes, supermoto's in general and i had no trouble backing them in, a lot easier. I feel better on a bike them in a car tbh

[abar121]

I learnt on buckets of crap that wouldn't tick over or would stall , think capris escorts and cortinas of the early 80s , it's second nature to the extent of people always comment on it , bike riders especially .
Instead of trying to do it driving quickly when your concentrating on other things do it every time you stop at a junction or lights , pretend your car will cut out when stopping , you will soon get into the habit and then transfer it to driving quickly , it worked for me

Yeah I had the same thing. A MK1 Golf scrapper when I was at college that had no tickover.

Every time I cleaned the pilot jet, it would block up almost immediately due to crap in the tank. It would actually stall going up the the box if you didn't keep some throttle on / slam it home

[abar121]

I was trying to practice just on the driveway after watching a few vids of the technique and i just can't get my foot in the angles, the throttle is a tad low, maybe I need a plate or something

i used to ride bikes, supermoto's in general and i had no trouble backing them in, a lot easier. I feel better on a bike them in a car tbh

I'm also a biker, bit of a two stroke nut.

I just used the throttle cover from something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACS-AC-MT-Gas ... 2ece6ca3d3

Where abouts in Essex are you? I'm in East London, happy to meet up one evening, if that helps.

[Kingash]

I was trying to practice just on the driveway after watching a few vids of the technique and i just can't get my foot in the angles, the throttle is a tad low, maybe I need a plate or something

i used to ride bikes, supermoto's in general and i had no trouble backing them in, a lot easier. I feel better on a bike them in a car tbh

I'm also a biker, bit of a two stroke nut.

I just used the throttle cover from something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACS-AC-MT-Gas ... 2ece6ca3d3

Where abouts in Essex are you? I'm in East London, happy to meet up one evening, if that helps.

Never had the pleasure of owning a 2 smoke, ride a husaberg 125 enduro at open day a few years back was blown away but how fast it was and how much I didn't know about enduro riding haha and i might get myself some and im wickford end

[Marvin-HHGTTG]

For those of us with larger feet (mine are size 11/12, and some suit shoes can actually brush the underside of the dash), you can always try "rolling" your foot - use the ball of your foot and big toe on the brake pedal and the outside of your foot on the throttle. You can't get quite the same amount of movement as a proper heel & toe, but enough for it to work well nonetheless. Especially straightforward with the sport button engaged.

[Ed Doe]

As with others I learnt on snotters shortly after passing my test. I had a 106 diesel which didn't strictly require heel and toe but it was pretty damn awkward to manage, so getting the hang of it on that car made it heaps easier in future cars.

I would definitely say the coupe (and therefore all z4s?) pedal box is just cracking for heel and toe - the pedals are perfect spaced, it feels rude not to!

[mj2k]

I loved the 106 for H&T, the Z less so - might need to tweak my driving position

[Kingash]

As with others I learnt on snotters shortly after passing my test. I had a 106 diesel which didn't strictly require heel and toe but it was pretty damn awkward to manage, so getting the hang of it on that car made it heaps easier in future cars.

I would definitely say the coupe (and therefore all z4s?) pedal box is just cracking for heel and toe - the pedals are perfect spaced, it feels rude not to!

I must be the problem then haha, did try it again today no luck though, will keep at it. Just seems the throttle is a touch low for me

[ga41]

Like Marvin-HHGTTG said I find that I prefer that same method of heel-toeing on my Z4M even though I'm only a size 9-9.5 UK. (The method is the one on the left in the picture below)

[ga41]

Another picture:

[Kingash]

Another picture:

Point 4 on this picture is the bit i have trouble with its either to much brake or to much throttle, first pic makes more sense to me i was trying to move the heel rather then the toe... Will try that next

[BMWZ4MC]

Like Marvin-HHGTTG said I find that I prefer that same method of heel-toeing on my Z4M even though I'm only a size 9-9.5 UK. (The method is the one on the left in the picture below)

I use the technique on the left in both my ///M and my S2000, but my feet are too big to allow this in my Westfield where I use the technique on the right. I've posted pictures of my throttle pedal modification that solves the poorly spaced pedals in the ///M. I can try to find them again if wanted.
My S2000 pedals are perfectly positioned and the throw of the shifter is really short, which makes for the perfect gear change. BMW could learn a thing or two!