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Scanner to read auto gearbox oil temp - Advice please?

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Scanner to read auto gearbox oil temp - Advice please?

Post by Scooba_Steve » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:12 pm

Zummerset wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:17 am Can anyone suggest the best thing to use
I don't have an auto E85/6 so can't check to see if this does read the transmission temp. But I do have this code reader and it's a good all in one: Autophix 7910. It displayed transmission oil temp for my F10.

Using my VIN but opening up the automatic transmission section there isn't anything listed about checking the temp on the 6HP, but it may be part of the DIS workflow:
BMT TIS wrote:Topping up transmission oil after a repair:

Stand vehicle on a level surface and secure against rolling off.
Undo oil filler plug (1).

Installation note:
Replace the sealing ring.

Top up automatic transmission fluid until it emerges from oil filler opening.
Start engine.
Top up automatic transmission fluid until it emerges from oil filler opening.
Screw in oil filler plug (1).
Tightening torque: 24 11 7AZ.
Press brake pedal to floor and shift through gears 1 to 6 several times at idle speed. Then shift to selector lever position "Park".
Then check oil level.

Checking oil level: Note:
Start the engine before checking the oil level or opening the oil filler plug.

Connect BMW Diagnosis and Information System at vehicle.
Call up Service functions (drive).
Carry out oil level check in accordance with instructions.
The general description of the 6HP includes this:
Up to a transmission oil temperature of approximately 35 C, the converter lockup clutch is neither controlled nor closed.
Which clearly means there is a method for the car and/or box to measure the oil temp.
Why use something indirect, potentially incorrect, to read the temp if there is already a sensor to do it for you?
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:17 pm

j3nks79 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:08 pm My guess is you’ve never serviced an auto gearbox before.
Going by your “logical” statement certainly shows no expertise. But you’re happy to advise people should do it themselves as using a thermal gun isn’t accurate enough
Have a day off eh.
Again, you've not rebutted the point.
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:20 pm

Zummerset wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:17 amAndy.
If you're actually in Somerset I'll be down that way this weekend. Drop me a PM and you can try the Autophix.
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Post by j3nks79 » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:22 pm

Scooba_Steve wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:17 pm
j3nks79 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:08 pm My guess is you’ve never serviced an auto gearbox before.
Going by your “logical” statement certainly shows no expertise. But you’re happy to advise people should do it themselves as using a thermal gun isn’t accurate enough
Have a day off eh.
Again, you've not rebutted the point.
You are clearly on the spectrum. Please just crack on with your £60 code reader and what ever you believe is correct.
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:30 pm

j3nks79 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:22 pm Please just crack on with your £60 code reader
What relevance does the cost of a code reader have if it reads the reported temperature required.
j3nks79 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:22 pm what ever you believe is correct
Ironic; the workflow is what is correct, using a different method isn't.

And you've still failed to explain exactly why what I originally said is incorrect. It isn't a question of tool accuracy but indirect measurement.
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Post by Zedebee » Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:07 pm

Guys, put your dicks away.

A quick Google found this:
The transmission oil sump temperature is sensed by a temperature-dependent resistor which is soldered in the transmission wiring harness. Among other things, engagement of the torque converter lockup clutch is controlled dependent on the transmission oil temperature.

So there is a temperature sensor, which means it can probably be read by a decent code reader. I just don’t recall seeing it in the menu (and I have a 5HP in any case).
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:51 am

Zedebee wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:07 pm I just don’t recall seeing it in the menu
It was buried in the live data menu for the F10 for me.
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Post by Hassan Mk » Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:07 pm

For checking the gearbox oil temp on your E86, you'll want a diagnostic scanner that can handle live data. Carista is a budget-friendly option that supports many BMWs and provides real-time temperature readings. OBD2 scanners with advanced features, like the Launch X431, can also work if you want something more robust.

You can find Carista on Amazon or eBay, and it’s pretty easy to use. Just make sure it’s compatible with your model and year.
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Post by Zummerset » Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:32 pm

Hi,
Thanks for that. I did have a look at Carista's website but it seems to only be for E89 and newer. The Autophix mentioned does have real time readings and according to the info, it can measure gearbox temps.
As a decent code reader is probably a good investment, I may go for the Autophix.

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Post by Zummerset » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:10 pm

Just to follow this up.....
I bought the Autophix 7910 and can confirm it does read live auto gearbox oil temp. Along with lots of other stuff I don't understand :)

For interests sake I'll use the infrared gun on the gearbox sump as well as the scanner and then compare temps, when I do the oil change.
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:21 am

Zummerset wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:10 pmCheers
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