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Post by skmattwell » Sat May 01, 2021 5:37 pm

The steering on my zed is very twitchy and nervous. It'll move left to right at free will and while it's drivable, it's not pleasurable. I'm constantly having to correct the steering especially at higher speeds.

I don't have run flats, so everything I've read points to the front suspension arm bushes. Had them looked at today and the mechanic said they look quite worn, which was almost a releif to hear. What wasn't a releif was the £300 charge he predicted to replace just the rear bushes on each side.

Is this a fair price or is there someone on this forum who can do it much cheaper? I don't mind paying that but I'd rather have the entire arms replaced, as they are around £115 for the pair with new bushes and everything.

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Post by Mike6 » Sat May 01, 2021 6:10 pm

i am sure someone more knowledgeable than me will be along shortly but I thought the way forward was to replace the whole unit rather than faf around trying to rebush which is a very time consuming job.

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Post by bigwinn » Sat May 01, 2021 6:32 pm

Deffo don’t bother rebushing in my humble opinion

Buy two new control arms and rear bushes

Also may be worth getting alignment done once you’ve done that but it’s not a hellish job

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Post by Jakg » Sat May 01, 2021 6:38 pm

Mike6 wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 6:10 pm i am sure someone more knowledgeable than me will be along shortly but I thought the way forward was to replace the whole unit rather than faf around trying to rebush which is a very time consuming job.
They are similar times - removing the bushes can be done without removing the arms, and removing the bushes isn't hard especially if worn.
I did this first to fit Powerflex bushes, and then later changed the arms for Meyle HD ones.

AutoData says arm replacement is 1.25 hours so £300 sounds expensive, unless maybe thats an all-in price including wheel alignment, parts and London prices...

I'm not sure what arms you were looking at, but the cheapest I can see Meyle HD arms is £190 for the pair with bushes - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300869717205
I wouldn't fit cheap ones as they just won't last, your better off keeping what you have.

EDIT - Finally I wish I'd gone for the Z4M rear bush setup...

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Post by bigwinn » Sat May 01, 2021 6:47 pm

Jakg wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 6:38 pm
Mike6 wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 6:10 pm i am sure someone more knowledgeable than me will be along shortly but I thought the way forward was to replace the whole unit rather than faf around trying to rebush which is a very time consuming job.
They are similar times - removing the bushes can be done without removing the arms, and removing the bushes isn't hard especially if worn.
I did this first to fit Powerflex bushes, and then later changed the arms for Meyle HD ones.

AutoData says arm replacement is 1.25 hours so £300 sounds expensive, unless maybe thats an all-in price including wheel alignment, parts and London prices...

I'm not sure what arms you were looking at, but the cheapest I can see Meyle HD arms is £190 for the pair with bushes - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300869717205
I wouldn't fit cheap ones as they just won't last, your better off keeping what you have.

EDIT - Finally I wish I'd gone for the Z4M rear bush setup...
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Post by skmattwell » Sat May 01, 2021 8:59 pm

This is what I was looking at: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202897370835 ... %3A2334524

The only worry I have is I'll buy one myself and have no one to fit it. I'm based in London.

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Post by bigwinn » Sat May 01, 2021 9:52 pm

Cheap and cheerful bud

Buy at your risk- I wouldn’t personally

If you want to help and fancy a trip to Lincs I’ll show you how to fit new control arms and bushes!
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Post by bigwinn » Sat May 01, 2021 9:53 pm

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Post by Jakg » Sat May 01, 2021 10:20 pm

bigwinn wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 9:53 pm I wouldn’t go less than lemforders myself
I went with Meyle HD ones because the ball joints are replaceable, without replacing the whole arm.

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Post by skmattwell » Sat May 01, 2021 11:35 pm

Thanks for the advice will have a shop around and buy what I can afford. To be honest anything will be better than how it is now, it's like I'm having to fight the car to go in a straight line!

Might just take you up on that offer bigwinn, although how would we raise the car?

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Post by bigwinn » Sun May 02, 2021 7:53 am

skmattwell wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 11:35 pm Thanks for the advice will have a shop around and buy what I can afford. To be honest anything will be better than how it is now, it's like I'm having to fight the car to go in a straight line!

Might just take you up on that offer bigwinn, although how would we raise the car?
I’ve done a few now on axle stands

Not a big issue to not have a lift
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Post by Jakg » Sun May 02, 2021 8:52 am

bigwinn wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 7:53 am
skmattwell wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 11:35 pm Might just take you up on that offer bigwinn, although how would we raise the car?
I’ve done a few now on axle stands
Plenty of space
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Post by yg54sg » Sun May 02, 2021 1:29 pm

Have had the Z4 on crap english country roads for 17 years , I wouldn't buy anything other than Meyle HD control arms, those by far last the longest 7+ years , everything else lasts a few years.
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Post by Zeld4 » Sun May 02, 2021 7:24 pm

I got Powerflex bushes fitted a couple of years ago. By far the best thing I’ve done to the car and I think cost 180 quid fitted.

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Post by Thrustyjust » Sun May 02, 2021 8:12 pm

I changed the rear bushes to powerflex after an alignment showed the originals to have signs of age. When you remove the rear bush, you can wobble the wishbone around and feel if any of the joints feel rough or loose. Mine seemed perfect, so new Powerflex bushes to the rear and geo redone and is as good as gold. Handles the roads well for the lump it is :driving:
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