[UPDATE] Anyone Interested in Upgrading Their Xenon Projectors?

lucasxdiniz · Post by **lucasxdiniz** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:39 pm

pcube wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:57 pm Possible to post the pic up here? I've got a dremel, but wanna see if it's within my skill level to do the trimming.

bearded_ed · Post by **bearded_ed** » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:28 am

Lucas, how do I go about figuring out what I've got currently?
I think it's halogens but I'm honestly not sure.

z4pilot · Post by **z4pilot** » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:37 am

bearded_ed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:28 am Lucas, how do I go about figuring out what I've got currently?
I think it's halogens but I'm honestly not sure.

If you have a manual headlight height adjustment next to your light switch, you have halogens. Xenons have automatic adjustment.

bearded_ed · Post by **bearded_ed** » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:58 pm

z4pilot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:37 am If you have a manual headlight height adjustment next to your light switch, you have halogens. Xenons have automatic adjustment.

Perfect thanks, that's exactly what I've got.

I actually already bought a HID kit to go in so I'll try that first because it wasn't too expensive but my god are the lights s**t on these cars.

bearded_ed · Post by **bearded_ed** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:45 pm

Can someone check my maths?
I have halogens at the moment, so I think it's going to come to....

Projectors £155
Brackets £45
Postage £6.50
Cutting and setup of brackets £40
Ballast £120

£366.50 total

OR is it £240 for ballast?

lucasxdiniz · Post by **lucasxdiniz** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:56 pm

bearded_ed wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:45 pm Can someone check my maths?
I have halogens at the moment, so I think it's going to come to....

Projectors £155
Brackets £45
Postage £6.50
Cutting and setup of brackets £40
Ballast £120

£366.50 total

OR is it £240 for ballast?

So projectors and brackets would cost £180 after discount. You can do the cutting yourself and set the brackets if you have access to a dremmel.

I am not sure about the ballast, I would assume they're for the pair. But you do not need to buy from the if it's a budget build, Trump only sells and recommends the best. I recommend emailing him and asking about it.

Hoppy3533 · Post by **Hoppy3533** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:38 am

An interesting forum on these projector headlights.
I have an 03 E85 3 litre here in Australia.
It has projector low beam headlights with H7 halogen bulbs (and manual height control).
So, I thought, easy, I'll just get some LED H7 bulbs and replace the halogen ones.

Not so easy, the H7 halogen bulb fits into a clip of some sort that then fits into the headlight housing.
It seems the globe is held in the clip by the bulb electrical pins pins, not the bulb flanges.
The LED H7 bulbs wont fit into the clip.

So, it occurs to me that the Projector housing is actually a Zenon HID item adapted for Aussie use with halogen H7 bulbs?
If so, what code/fitting is the Zenon bulb and is there an LED retrofit item that can be fitted to the Zenon projector housing?

lucasxdiniz · Post by **lucasxdiniz** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:58 pm

Hoppy3533 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:38 am An interesting forum on these projector headlights.
I have an 03 E85 3 litre here in Australia.
It has projector low beam headlights with H7 halogen bulbs (and manual height control).
So, I thought, easy, I'll just get some LED H7 bulbs and replace the halogen ones.

Not so easy, the H7 halogen bulb fits into a clip of some sort that then fits into the headlight housing.
It seems the globe is held in the clip by the bulb electrical pins pins, not the bulb flanges.
The LED H7 bulbs wont fit into the clip.

So, it occurs to me that the Projector housing is actually a Zenon HID item adapted for Aussie use with halogen H7 bulbs?
If so, what code/fitting is the Zenon bulb and is there an LED retrofit item that can be fitted to the Zenon projector housing?

With these you can use your LED bulbs:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-BMW-E60- ... 56b064a37c

ERX · Post by **ERX** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:58 am

So is the conclusion that these don't work in pre-facelift Z4s?

Hoppy3533 · Post by **Hoppy3533** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:31 am

I followed the link to EBay and found that the part referred to is the clip I already have, which fits H7 halogen globes, but not the LED H7s.
But then I noticed a clip that is slightly different for the fitting of the LED globe.
I have ordered these clips and also they are supplying the LED globes to suit.
They won’t get to Australia till the New Year, so the plan is to post an update once they arrive.

lucasxdiniz · Post by **lucasxdiniz** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:24 pm

A friend took a photo of our cars side by side before a night-time run. I think it shows the difference between the OEM bi-xenon projector vs Morimoto's quite well. Note that he has Osham Nightbreakers which are supposed to be brighter than my bulbs, Osham Cool Blues.

bearded_ed · Post by **bearded_ed** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:16 pm

lucasxdiniz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:24 pm supposed to be brighter than my bulbs, Osham Cool Blues.

I think we all know that brighter bulbs do not solve the issue.

It's whole unit that needs throwing in the bin! Still can't get over how bad the z4 lights are.

Saving some pennies for the Morimotos

Dubbedown · Post by **Dubbedown** » Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:40 am

I upgraded to Morimoto EvoX-R 2.0 projectors (95% PnP) + Osram CBB bulbs and the difference was night and day. Install wise I thought they projectors fit perfectly without need for modification or special brackets. The 5% was just in regards to finding a different igniter though you can easily source a PnP adapter and keep your factory igniters.

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Z-4-FUN · Post by **Z-4-FUN** » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:25 pm

@lucasxdiniz

Any idea when these are going to be fully available to joe public? It seems the few that have had them installed have been guinea pigs, and as per @Johnr32's comment, he said a lot of adjustments had to be made at the installation. It doesn't sound like they're 100% plug and play yet?

Do you have any idea what's different between the versions EMT are offering vs TRS (USA) https://bit.ly/2uFjRxy or RFL (Netherlands) - https://bit.ly/2R8Fy0l

Cheers.

lucasxdiniz · Post by **lucasxdiniz** » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:45 pm

Z-4-FUN wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:25 pm @lucasxdiniz

Any idea when these are going to be fully available to joe public? It seems the few that have had them installed have been guinea pigs, and as per @Johnr32's comment, he said a lot of adjustments had to be made at the installation. It doesn't sound like they're 100% plug and play yet?

Do you have any idea what's different between the versions EMT are offering vs TRS (USA) https://bit.ly/2uFjRxy or RFL (Netherlands) - https://bit.ly/2R8Fy0l

Cheers.

They are. See my update on the first post or a few posts above yours. They aren't 100% plug and play as Morimotos Mini 5s need to be trimmed. He can send you the projectors already trimmed if you wish to pay.

Those look like retrofits of the standard Hella unit, so the projectors do not look like they would be much of an improvement over the stock Hella units BMW designed the headlights for, i.e more of a halogen to OEM Bi-Xenon retrofit. I think, I only looked briefly.

Please email Trups, he'll be happy to answer any of your questions. He also sells LHD kits if you are in Europe.

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