Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

2003 - 2009, roadster, coupe, facelift
User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 am

Its long been said on here that Eibachs give a more comfortable ride than M Sport springs, at least over the smaller bumps. But how do they compare with SE springs? Anyone made this switch without refreshing the shocks?
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, as i'm currently toying with the idea of trying some SE springs on my zed running Eibachs.
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
philbo909
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1072
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm
Location: SN8

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by philbo909 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:17 am

I went from SE- eibach- msport on bilstein b4s
SE looked odd imo, just too much arch gap. eibach were too low for my zed and msport are just right (suplex that is)
Ride on SE is easily best, shame they're so tall!
Sapphire black z4 coupe 135,000miles young

User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:31 pm

philbo909 wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:17 am I went from SE- eibach- msport on bilstein b4s
SE looked odd imo, just too much arch gap. eibach were too low for my zed and msport are just right (suplex that is)
Ride on SE is easily best, shame they're so tall!
Thanks for the reply,
Just to clarify, did you have the B4s on with the SE springs or did you just fit them when you went to M Sport springs?
Thanks
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
philbo909
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1072
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm
Location: SN8

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by philbo909 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:12 pm

Yeh all of the springs on the same B4 struts, which were new last year (it was a bit of a goldilocks moment for me, should've bit the bullet and got coilovers in hindsight)
Sapphire black z4 coupe 135,000miles young

User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:25 pm

philbo909 wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:12 pm Yeh all of the springs on the same B4 struts, which were new last year (it was a bit of a goldilocks moment for me, should've bit the bullet and got coilovers in hindsight)
Interesting, seeing as you found the SE springs to give by far the best ride quality. I may well have to try them on mine and see how it rides/handles and if I can live with arch gap.
thanks
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
ben g
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 7858
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:20 pm
Location: Essex

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by ben g » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 pm

I've seen a Z4 with SE springs in real life and believe me, you do not want that arch gap :lol: it's absolutely dreadful.
Red Soft-top Sterling grey 3.0i - Z4M Front, Eibachs, Polybushed, Clear headlights, Triple clear spot rear lights, Shadow Chrome 107's, Sport MFSW, ZHP.

DaveD
Member
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:05 pm
Location: Warwick

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by DaveD » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:17 pm

It is quite high. Here’s a pic of mine. Is a compromise though as I’d be able to carry loads more speed on a B road vs eibachs
Attachments
6611C438-E2CD-4D34-AF37-FDA1E1DC0035.jpeg
6611C438-E2CD-4D34-AF37-FDA1E1DC0035.jpeg (415.44 KiB) Viewed 1131 times
Z4 Coupe 3.0si - Stratus Grey - M sport seats, headlining, New England, Carver, Cruise, Xenons, sT XTAs, Eisenmann race, 18” 405m
G21 M340i - Tanzanite - Tech Pack, Comfort + Pack, Visibility pack, pan roof.

User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 am

ben g wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 pm I've seen a Z4 with SE springs in real life and believe me, you do not want that arch gap :lol: it's absolutely dreadful.
:D . I know what you mean! I think I'm at the point where its just an inch I want to scratch. Curiousity is getting the better of me and I just want to see what its like ride/handling wise. I'm hoping using M Spec tyres and 15/20mm spacers might just help to mask some of the arch gap. Probably just wishful thinking that! :rofl:
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:31 am

DaveD wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:17 pm It is quite high. Here’s a pic of mine. Is a compromise though as I’d be able to carry loads more speed on a B road vs eibachs
I think you just hit the nail on head there. Its exactly what I was thinking.
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
tug
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 2302
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:10 am
Location: Loughborough

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by tug » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:44 am

Just done a full refresh on my zeds suspension, i thought i would keep it standard SE. So had SACHS shocks front and rear SACHS coils on rear and KILEN springs on the front with SACHS top mounts :thumbsup:

Together with my 17's the arch gaps are big compared to others ive seen but after feeling the complete transformation in handling and comfort i dont care about that. Before, the ride was crashy, noisy, and the back end rolling about, it was awful! but i just thought its a sports car put up with it :(

Now its like driving on AIR! rolls over rough roads with ease and comfort and feels well planted when cornering. So glad i treated the zed :D


Cheers, tug :thumbsup:
E85 N46 2.0i SE BLACK SAPPHIRE
Image

DaveD
Member
Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:05 pm
Location: Warwick

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by DaveD » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:35 am

B6 dampers just ups the performance window so firmer at low speed but more composed at high speed. Keeps the travel though so less time on the bump stops.
Z4 Coupe 3.0si - Stratus Grey - M sport seats, headlining, New England, Carver, Cruise, Xenons, sT XTAs, Eisenmann race, 18” 405m
G21 M340i - Tanzanite - Tech Pack, Comfort + Pack, Visibility pack, pan roof.

User avatar
philbo909
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1072
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm
Location: SN8

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by philbo909 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:51 am

MACK wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 am
ben g wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 pm I've seen a Z4 with SE springs in real life and believe me, you do not want that arch gap :lol: it's absolutely dreadful.
:D . I know what you mean! I think I'm at the point where its just an inch I want to scratch. Curiousity is getting the better of me and I just want to see what its like ride/handling wise. I'm hoping using M Spec tyres and 15/20mm spacers might just help to mask some of the arch gap. Probably just wishful thinking that! :rofl:
Like you say with M tyre sizes and spacers I think it'll look a lot better than standard SE
Sapphire black z4 coupe 135,000miles young

STUBOY2UK
Member
Member
Posts: 308
Joined: Mon May 18, 2015 6:53 pm

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by STUBOY2UK » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:52 am

MACK wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 am Its long been said on here that Eibachs give a more comfortable ride than M Sport springs, at least over the smaller bumps.
I read that many times before swapping from M Sport to Eibach, and I'm not sure I agree. I think the ride comfort was pretty similar but the car looked much better lowered on the Eibachs. I then swapped my 18"s for 19"s and it looked awesome, but in truth the ride was ridiculously harsh for a daily driver.

I've sold the car now but if I had another one, I'd go for Eibachs and 18" wheels.
Z4R 3.0si Sport auto. So far: 19" CSLs, Eibachs, MM exhaust tips, de-badged rear, stubby, black grilles, spacers, aux cable, interior LEDs, LED boot strip......

User avatar
MACK
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3600
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:38 am
Location: Manchester

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by MACK » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:22 am

philbo909 wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:51 am
MACK wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:30 am
ben g wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 pm I've seen a Z4 with SE springs in real life and believe me, you do not want that arch gap :lol: it's absolutely dreadful.
:D . I know what you mean! I think I'm at the point where its just an inch I want to scratch. Curiousity is getting the better of me and I just want to see what its like ride/handling wise. I'm hoping using M Spec tyres and 15/20mm spacers might just help to mask some of the arch gap. Probably just wishful thinking that! :rofl:
Like you say with M tyre sizes and spacers I think it'll look a lot better than standard SE
Just to update this thread, I let curiosity get the better of me and bought a set of Suplex SE spec rear springs. I just got the rears for now as there a doddle to fit compared to the fronts. I put them on yesterday and went for a bit of a run to see what the ride was like. Its definitely more compliant than the Eibachs, although its a little hard to tell at times with just the rears done whats coming from the front and whats coming from the rear.
Aesthetics wise I think mine looks more akin to a zed on M Sport suspension than one on SE due to the higher tyre sidewalls and the spacers pushing the wheels closer to the arches, so I think I could probably live with it. Although obviously I am biased! :D
I think Ill now order a set of fronts and get them on, then assess the whole complete package before making any final decisions about which to leave on.
Silver 05 3.0i SE
Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)

White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)

User avatar
philbo909
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1072
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:46 pm
Location: SN8

SE Springs vs Eibachs anyone made the switch

Post by philbo909 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:35 am

So right now you have eibach fronts and SE rears? That's worth a picture
Sapphire black z4 coupe 135,000miles young

Post Reply