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Post by Ebt » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:35 pm

Hi has any one upgraded the front brake calipers on the e85 mine is on a 55 plate and looking to see what people have done as can not find any think thanks

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Post by TheDan » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm

There are a few options for the front brakes on the E85/E86 (non-M) Z4s:
  • Keep/refurb calipers and upgrade pads and discs.
  • Buy an "off the shelf" BBK such as K-Sport, Stoptech, VMaxx.
  • Create a custom system by buying some upgraded calipers (4 pot Brembos are a common upgrade) and some adapter brackets.
I personally went for the 3rd option as it worked out slightly cheaper and I could spec exactly what I wanted.

Here is my system at the fronts:
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I went for the following:
  • Brembo 4 pot calipers from a Megane 3 RS
  • Adapter brackets to fit these calipers to the Z4
  • MTEC grooved vented coated discs (325mm)
  • HEL braided brake lines
  • Carbotech XP8 pads
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Post by JamesClements » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:36 pm

TheDan wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm

I went for the following:
  • Brembo 4 pot calipers from a Megane 3 RS
  • Adapter brackets to fit these calipers to the Z4
  • MTEC grooved vented coated discs (325mm)
  • HEL braided brake lines
  • Carbotech XP8 pads
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Where did you get the brackets just out of interest? - Been considering something like this for mine. I have upgraded discs and pads at the moment OP which is definitely an improvement over stock

Cheers

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Post by brillomaster » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:37 pm

its probably worth asking, what are you trying to achieve? are you actually after better braking performance (say for track work) or just something that looks better behind the wheel spokes?

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Post by TheDan » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:53 pm

brillomaster wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:37 pm its probably worth asking, what are you trying to achieve? are you actually after better braking performance (say for track work) or just something that looks better behind the wheel spokes?
Good shout. I just assumed anyone asking for front brake upgrades is wanting better braking. It never occurs to me people are after aesthetic brake upgrades.
JamesClements wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:36 pm Where did you get the brackets just out of interest? - Been considering something like this for mine. I have upgraded discs and pads at the moment OP which is definitely an improvement over stock
I actually got the calipers, brackets and bolts from this Polish company and is the same system Liam22 currently uses.
https://k-system.pro/en/product/bmw-e36 ... rs-325x25/

If I'd known someone who works in a machine shop or a decent machine shop near me I'd have bought the calipers separately, measured everything up, CADed up a design for the brackets and got them fabricated. But this was only slightly more expensive.

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Post by JamesClements » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:07 pm

TheDan wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:53 pm
JamesClements wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:36 pm Where did you get the brackets just out of interest? - Been considering something like this for mine. I have upgraded discs and pads at the moment OP which is definitely an improvement over stock
I actually got the calipers, brackets and bolts from this Polish company and is the same system Liam22 currently uses.
https://k-system.pro/en/product/bmw-e36 ... rs-325x25/

If I'd known someone who works in a machine shop or a decent machine shop near me I'd have bought the calipers separately, measured everything up, CADed up a design for the brackets and got them fabricated. But this was only slightly more expensive.
Thanks, I think the price is pretty reasonable might looking into getting a some brackets made up, there's quite a few machine shops near us we use at work, cheers for the info :thumbsup:
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Post by Ebt » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:13 pm

Hi thank you the Dan I will looking to do the same as you the 3rd option where did you get the bracket for the calipers mate

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Post by TheDan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:36 pm

Ebt wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:13 pm Hi thank you the Dan I will looking to do the same as you the 3rd option where did you get the bracket for the calipers mate
I actually got the calipers, brackets and bolts from this Polish company and is the same system Liam22 currently uses.
https://k-system.pro/en/product/bmw-e36 ... rs-325x25/

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Post by john-e89 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:24 pm

There is also Vagbremtechinic in the UK, the owner is a member here. :thumbsup:
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Post by kis » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:37 am

TheDan wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:07 pm
Here is my system at the fronts:
  • Brembo 4 pot calipers from a Megane 3 RS
  • Adapter brackets to fit these calipers to the Z4
  • MTEC grooved vented coated discs (325mm)
  • HEL braided brake lines
  • Carbotech XP8 pads
I notice on the site you've referenced, that the cost Megane and Clio callipers are the same. Did you take a look into the pros and cons between the two? I'd imagine the Megane pads will be more expensive than the Clio? But do they offer better performance? i.e. why did you go for the Megane's in the end? :)
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Post by TheDan » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:22 am

kis wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:37 am I notice on the site you've referenced, that the cost Megane and Clio callipers are the same. Did you take a look into the pros and cons between the two? I'd imagine the Megane pads will be more expensive than the Clio? But do they offer better performance? i.e. why did you go for the Megane's in the end?
There wasn't a huge amount in it to be honest, but in the end there were 2 main reasons I went for the Megane over the Clio:
  • The Megane 3 RS is heavier and has a slightly larger pad size. So braking performance will be slightly better than that of the Clio 3 RS.
  • Liam22 has been using the Megane 3 RS system in races, therefore I knew someone who has had experience with these "in anger" so was pretty confident they would suit my needs.

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Post by Ebt » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:42 pm

john-e89 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:24 pm There is also Vagbremtechinic in the UK, the owner is a member here. :thumbsup:
Do you the user name of the owner

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