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Lotus Emira
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Everything I’ve read has reported that the i4 is the current M139 engine detuned to 360hp, not the old M133 that MB themselves haven't used for two years.
Interestingly, the M139 i4 weighs 160kg dry, whilst the 2GR-FE V6 weighs 163kg with fluids. The V6 has the additional weight of a supercharger and intercooler, but the i4 is coupled to a heavy DCT transmission (as opposed to a lighter manual transmission). Overall, both drivetrains should have a similar total mass.
I’ve no doubt that the V6 will be produced with more power in later editions of the Emira as it was in the Evora and Exige - 430hp / 440Nm is easy to achieve but approaches the torque limit of the transmission.
Once emissions regulations kill off the V6, the i4 will become the only engine choice, allowing Lotus to release the full 416hp / 500Nm found in the AMG 45S. Apparently, up to 500hp is easily achieved in the A45 without hardware changes, and 600hp with larger turbos!
Interestingly, the M139 i4 weighs 160kg dry, whilst the 2GR-FE V6 weighs 163kg with fluids. The V6 has the additional weight of a supercharger and intercooler, but the i4 is coupled to a heavy DCT transmission (as opposed to a lighter manual transmission). Overall, both drivetrains should have a similar total mass.
I’ve no doubt that the V6 will be produced with more power in later editions of the Emira as it was in the Evora and Exige - 430hp / 440Nm is easy to achieve but approaches the torque limit of the transmission.
Once emissions regulations kill off the V6, the i4 will become the only engine choice, allowing Lotus to release the full 416hp / 500Nm found in the AMG 45S. Apparently, up to 500hp is easily achieved in the A45 without hardware changes, and 600hp with larger turbos!
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Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all goodOle gits rule wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pmI am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90kArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pmNo, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!
Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out
I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week
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I have a feeling in 12 months there will some form of vert - maybe a targa top but they will do something for certain, to big a market to miss out on IMHO.Argyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pmWell, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all goodOle gits rule wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pmI am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90kArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pm No, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!
Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out
I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week
She is far to soft with you - SWMBO this end would have sulked for two weeks
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The thumb print on the back of your head must be seriousArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pmWell, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all goodOle gits rule wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pmI am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90kArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pm No, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!
Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out
I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week
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Well if that’s the time scale I’m still sticking with my 2 yrs projectionOle gits rule wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:56 pmI have a feeling in 12 months there will some form of vert - maybe a targa top but they will do something for certain, to big a market to miss out on IMHO.Argyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pmWell, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all goodOle gits rule wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm
I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k
I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week
She is far to soft with you - SWMBO this end would have sulked for two weeks
Yes she was fine but the sentence containing “Por*!@e still do soft tops don’t they?” was also mentioned again
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Car looks outstanding and for £60k (if that actually is the cost) would be a fantastic bargain
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It’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatableFlyingfifer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pmThe thumb print on the back of your head must be seriousArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pmWell, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all goodOle gits rule wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm
I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k
I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week
Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master
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Does she have her own car?Argyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 pmIt’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatableFlyingfifer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pmThe thumb print on the back of your head must be seriousArgyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just but she’s still speaking to me so all good
Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master
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Yes, as I do mine and the G29 is our carFlyingfifer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 pmDoes she have her own car?Argyll Andy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 pmIt’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatableFlyingfifer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm The thumb print on the back of your head must be serious
Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master
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I dont get it..... so you have 2 cars and she has 1?
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It's not a bad number of cars to have... especially when her car is really just my third car
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#chauffeur
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Nearly right, we have 1 1/2 cars each but I’m in possession of two of them so win.win so when the fun car is discussed or decisions made re it, it’s 50/50 and I’m happy with that as we have very similar views, except I’d like a bright green/yellow/Orange car, she’s not so keen so a compromise is reached and tbh, I’m more interested in the car, the colours not so important to me therefore I’m pretty flexible on that
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^ is 100% correct, I’m the chauffeur of the 3rd car and that suits both of us perfectlyFlyingfifer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:53 pm#chauffeur
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Im too poor to have 3 cars... just have two, one off the road and the other is the zed/daily
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