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Post by BMWZ4MC » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:33 am

Everything I’ve read has reported that the i4 is the current M139 engine detuned to 360hp, not the old M133 that MB themselves haven't used for two years.
Interestingly, the M139 i4 weighs 160kg dry, whilst the 2GR-FE V6 weighs 163kg with fluids. The V6 has the additional weight of a supercharger and intercooler, but the i4 is coupled to a heavy DCT transmission (as opposed to a lighter manual transmission). Overall, both drivetrains should have a similar total mass.
I’ve no doubt that the V6 will be produced with more power in later editions of the Emira as it was in the Evora and Exige - 430hp / 440Nm is easy to achieve but approaches the torque limit of the transmission.
Once emissions regulations kill off the V6, the i4 will become the only engine choice, allowing Lotus to release the full 416hp / 500Nm found in the AMG 45S. Apparently, up to 500hp is easily achieved in the A45 without hardware changes, and 600hp with larger turbos!
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Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm

Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm
Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pm
Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:21 pm Kathleen seen it then :poke: :rofl:
No, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!

Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out :evil:
I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k

I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week :rofl:
Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
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    Post by Ole gits rule » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:56 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm
    Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pm No, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!

    Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out :evil:
    I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k

    I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week :rofl:
    Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
    I have a feeling in 12 months there will some form of vert - maybe a targa top but they will do something for certain, to big a market to miss out on IMHO.

    She is far to soft with you - SWMBO this end would have sulked for two weeks :rofl:
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    Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm
    Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:44 pm No, and not so sure I’ll show her it. Saying that, there’s a flip side. I honestly reckon even if she likes it when she finds out it’s a fixed top it’ll be a no!

    Now will I take the risk in trying that theory out :evil:
    I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k

    I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week :rofl:
    Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
    The thumb print on the back of your head must be serious :rofl:
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    Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm

    Ole gits rule wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:56 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm
    Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm

    I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k

    I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week :rofl:
    Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
    I have a feeling in 12 months there will some form of vert - maybe a targa top but they will do something for certain, to big a market to miss out on IMHO.

    She is far to soft with you - SWMBO this end would have sulked for two weeks :rofl:
    Well if that’s the time scale I’m still sticking with my 2 yrs projection :wink:

    Yes she was fine but the sentence containing “Por*!@e still do soft tops don’t they?” was also mentioned again :o
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      Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:09 pm

      Car looks outstanding and for £60k (if that actually is the cost) would be a fantastic bargain
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      Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 pm

      Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm
      Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm
      Ole gits rule wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:52 pm

      I am certain that the looks for £60k she will be interested - mind by the time you add in the 3.5 and tick a few options it will be closer to £90k

      I would keep her off that or you will be placing an order next week :rofl:
      Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
      The thumb print on the back of your head must be serious :rofl:
      It’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatable :wink:

      Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master :lol:
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        Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 pm

        Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 pm
        Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm
        Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:48 pm Well, was feeling brave yesterday and decided to test my theory, showed Kathleen and got loads of oooo’s and ahhhh’s followed by I really like that, then told her hard top only, she changed to an absolute no :rofl: I then showed her the comments where I said she’d say that and she just :lol: but she’s still speaking to me so all good :thumbsup:
        The thumb print on the back of your head must be serious :rofl:
        It’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatable :wink:

        Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master :lol:
        Does she have her own car?
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        Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:39 pm

        Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:13 pm
        Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:12 pm
        Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:08 pm The thumb print on the back of your head must be serious :rofl:
        It’s called a relationship Wullie, where one of the party’s isn’t inflatable :wink:

        Discussions are had, something that suits both parties is agreed = two happy people. I’m just more impressed that I’ve got a good enough understanding about what she’ll like/not like, that’s not the easiest skill to master :lol:
        Does she have her own car?
        Yes, as I do mine and the G29 is our car :thumbsup:
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          Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:44 pm

          Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:39 pm Yes, as I do mine and the G29 is our car :thumbsup:
          I dont get it..... so you have 2 cars and she has 1? :rofl: :P
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          Post by Probocop » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:52 pm

          Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:44 pm ...so you have 2 cars and she has 1? :rofl: :P
          It's not a bad number of cars to have... especially when her car is really just my third car :rofl:
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          Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:53 pm

          Probocop wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:52 pm
          Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:44 pm ...so you have 2 cars and she has 1? :rofl: :P
          It's not a bad number of cars to have... especially when her car is _really_ just my third car :rofl:
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          Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:55 pm

          Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:44 pm
          Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:39 pm Yes, as I do mine and the G29 is our car :thumbsup:
          I dont get it..... so you have 2 cars and she has 1? :rofl: :P
          Nearly right, we have 1 1/2 cars each but I’m in possession of two of them so win.win :wink: so when the fun car is discussed or decisions made re it, it’s 50/50 and I’m happy with that as we have very similar views, except I’d like a bright green/yellow/Orange car, she’s not so keen so a compromise is reached and tbh, I’m more interested in the car, the colours not so important to me therefore I’m pretty flexible on that :thumbsup:
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            Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:56 pm

            Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:53 pm
            Probocop wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:52 pm
            Flyingfifer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:44 pm ...so you have 2 cars and she has 1? :rofl: :P
            It's not a bad number of cars to have... especially when her car is _really_ just my third car :rofl:
            #chauffeur
            ^ is 100% correct, I’m the chauffeur of the 3rd car and that suits both of us perfectly :thumbsup:
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              Post by Flyingfifer » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:57 pm

              Im too poor to have 3 cars... just have two, one off the road and the other is the zed/daily :P :rofl:
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