Pondrew wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:24 pm
As I am in the market for a 4 seater German "nutter bast*rd" car I have been reading this thread with interest. The C63 had not really been on my radar as was looking at the latest generation, which were too expensive (or too much depreciation which I will be funding).
From everything I've read about the "M" cars (3 or 4) and C class AMGs, it is only the "spitfire sound" of the AMG that is superior to the BMs.
I am interested why you wanted a 9 year old C63 over the M3 and why I should buy one, when the equivalent age and mileage M3 is 5k cheaper?
Well,
I had all intentions of keeping the Z for the next 4-5 years. I was going to put a diff in her and that was going to be my car. I literally woke up a month ago and wanted a V8.
Audi? Na.
Mercedes? Na, I had driven a Tesla once and that was the closest I had ever got to an auto. I didn't think they were for me (I don't know if this was the box or the electric or both). So they were out of the question.
I joined the Facebook group for the 9x's and was asking alot of questions. It seemed like there was alot more choice of auto's for M3's than there was for manuals. I asked them why and what their thoughts were on the two. It was probably 75-25 in favour of auto's.
So I thought the people can't be wrong. Most of them seemed to think that an autobox suited a V8 and yes running through gears was fun but not to much was lost in the transition.
So I had to think "why didn't I like auto's" was it because I read in all the car mags and videos that manuals are for purest's? Or in my head do I think that they are all like the e46 range. Either way I thought I was just telling myself this because it's what everyone else says so I should go into it with an open mind.
So I was set on consideration of a manual or auto E90 M3 (if I am going to have more than two seats I might as well have 5 and not the 4 the coupe has).
I did a bit of research and I don't think the m3 is a very reliable car. It seems like they have got the engine very highly strung and you really have to rag the sh*t out of it to get the performance. Otherwise you are getting done by fast diesels.
So I had worked out my spec for a BMW and was going to just wait for the right one to pop up. I wanted white or silver, red interior and the adjustable suspension. FSH and under 50k miles.
At that point I wanted to just make sure that I had made the right decision so I took another look at the rivals. VXR- looks fun but the interior is dog sh*t. Audi, na AWD just not for me. Lexus ISF- not for me. Mercedes, well actually they were only ruled out due to auto and I am now considering auto's so here is an option.
So it was a choice between the two. I reassured both cars alot and just felt that the Merc fitted my character more than an M. I chose the Merc because of 3 things:
Reliability, Sound and torque.
There is no doubt what what's been written the BMW is a better track car (I am never taking the car on track so not a consideration for me) the BMW has a better gear box (hands down).
But I think the Merc is more exciting. It's a German Muscle car that can go round corners that is 520 odd horse power with a map. The sound is amazing. It's like Thor throwing thunderbolts. The M3 sounds more exotic at high revs but the soundtrack especially with the rear cats removed (it's only loud when you mash the pedal. Normal driving it's hard to tell).
I then put together my wish list for a Merc. I wanted a PPP (performance Pack- uprated engine, brakes and suspension) FMBSH under 50k, LSD and mapped (the map was not a deal breaker- I could do it at a later date).
Found a guy who was looking to sell in the future and we agreed to meet after lockdown but I said to him if he ups his process can be give me 1st shout before he advertised and he said he would. He called me last week we had an hour chat about the car, it's history and the fact he wanted to sell so I went down ansnd bought it.
I think I would be happy with a M3 but this C63 is a monster. Anything more than 1/4 throttle in 1st will have the traction control on from a standing start in sport. It will shred tyres for fun and sounds like nothing else- I giggle like a school girl when I down shift.
Keep it in comfort and it will hunt for 7th gear as soon as it can and float around on torque. It literally can do anything.