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After the Z4M - M4CS

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Post by Herminator » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:58 pm

It's been over 8 years with my Z4M roadster but just before new years it went to it's new owner. It was with me for a very significant portion of my life, through good times and bad. Even 3 years in Sweden, where it really didn't get the use it deserves.
I'll always miss that special car and will have one in the collection if I have that luxury in the future. I think it's the BMW most deserving classic status in the last 20 years.
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I knew it would be hard to replace the feeling the Z4M gives when you drive it. I've spent countless hours trawling Autotrader.
What I wanted?
More practicality, space and comfort, along with some more modern tech, but without loosing all sense of sportyness and without being numb feeling. Not easy with most modern cars.
Electric cars are the future IMO, something I'll embrace in the next few years, but first I need one last petrol beast.

I test drove an M2 (original) it's the right size for a fun car, but the basic interior wasn't something I could get past. The M2 Competition interior is a good half step in the right direction, but still not good enough.
Porsche- I have felt the Cayman interior too claustrophobic since sitting in a workmates and both it and the 911s just didn't quite have the every day practicality I was looking for.
When looking at 911s I also started looking at the AMG GT, I love the look of them but I wasn't quite there on budget.
Jaguar FType- I'm not that old yet and Jag's are my fathers thing.
Alfa Quadriofolagiogogogo - Had an Alfa Brera, seen the same build issues are still a thing, no thanks.
Mercedes C63? Pretty but not sporty in the way I want.
Audi? drove a TTS as a "cheap" option, not enough power or feeling but the interior was very nice, I think they're a bargain in the mid 20k price range. The S5, needs a model refresh when you see it next to the other updated Audi's.

In the end it always came down to M4's but even then I worried it would be a little numb.
So how to solve that? get the most sorted and slightly more raw version :driving:

Yesterday I picked up this beast - M4 CS
In the best colour, San Marino Blue, with Icon headlights, Carbon Ceramic brakes, Alcantara steering wheel, not that there''s many options to tick on the CS, but this one had all the ones I felt were important.
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I had a few hours driving up the A68 today to Edinburgh and got to enjoy becoming acquainted with it.
The chassis and suspension is still stiff like the Z4M but I don't grimace at every pothole now. The damping is nice and copes well with our British roads. The 19's up front with extra tyre sidewall are good to have here too. Any smaller and the front brakes wouldn't fit :lol:
It's not as loud'inside, but thats what I wanted for longer road journeys. But it's not as sound proofed as a regular or Competition M4, so there's still some sense of road and exhaust noise.
The steering is still super reactive, like the Z but it won't ever have the same feel you get from a hydraulic system. In fact I think it's probably even more direct around centre point, think a direction and you're turning in.
The DCT I love, apart from a couple of around town jerky pulls between 1st and 2nd.
The exhaust is too quiet from inside until you put it in Sports +. When you do though, it's great and brings the car alive on country road blasts :D With the DCT and the torque of the engine, the power is easy to access, less work than the Z4M.
The rear tyres were new yesterday, Cup2s, so a little squirly and not helped but the low temps and damp roads. With the need to be careful trying to put the power down, overtakes were still done quickly at less than full throttle. Which soon meant the brakes needed to be tested. They don't bite as hard as the Z4M, but thats down the pedal modulation which I just need to get used to. I feel like the brakes have a layer of electronic wizardry going on to ensure they feel "normal" vs the Zs being simply big and directly linked to your foot.
Having heard experience of Porsche Cayane ceramic brakes biting too hard and putting your face through the windscreen on the autobahn, I'm glad they're "normal" on the M4 and I just need to get used to them

The plan is to keep this car 8+ years like the Z4M, but eventually it will be a second car to something electric for daily duties.
Until then, I plan to enjoy the daily and fun day usage. I feel it gives me the things I wanted to add to my daily, whilst still retaining that specialness the Z4M has in buckets.
I'm going to enjoy getting to know it more. I can't wait for the summer and some good Scottish road trips :driving:
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Post by Mr Tidy » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:06 pm

That's an interesting comparison, and your M4CS looks a real beast - plus I love the colour! :thumbsup:

And you've even got a photo for the "Zeds at the Petrol Station" thread!

Roll on summer. :driving:
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Post by buzyg » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:17 pm

Great post. :thumbsup: good looking beast too. 8) Enjoy the next 8 years :driving: and be sure to keep us updated. :wink:
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Post by BeeEmm » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:43 pm

Lovely car, made for the Scottish border roads. :thumbsup:
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Post by LeeZ4MR » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:48 pm

A wonderful car in a wonderful colour! :wub: :wub:

I've wanted a M4 since they first came out. 8)

Congratulations and enjoy it. :thumbsup: :driving:
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Post by Marlon » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:46 pm

Thats one serious looking motor - great choice :thumbsup: :driving:
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Post by Chippie » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:04 am

Congratulations on the new purchase it looks stunning, I’m sure you will enjoy every moment in it 👍
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Post by paddy wright » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:39 am

Congratulations on the new car. Health to drive.
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Post by MrPT » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:40 pm

Very astute purchase and a fantastic car. At ~£100k (when optioned) I would have ridiculed anybody that bought a new one but they’re a steal now. Lovely colour too, congrats. :thumbsup:

So tell us the truth then, have your arms fallen out their sockets due to the infamous missing armrests? :lol:
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Post by Herminator » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:17 pm

MrPT wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:40 pm Very astute purchase and a fantastic car. At ~£100k (when optioned) I would have ridiculed anybody that bought a new one but they’re a steal now. Lovely colour too, congrats. :thumbsup:

So tell us the truth then, have your arms fallen out their sockets due to the infamous missing armrests? :lol:
Haha, yes not worth their asking price new, but now the difference between a competition and a CS nearly new is a lot less and I'm hoping the CS will become the E46 M3 CSL of the future.
I was looking at a nice spec Competition, but by the time I added the CS style lighter wheels, a carbon splitter and spoiler/lip, it closed the gap in price enough to make me go that bit further.

The lack of armrests wasn't an issue on 3 hours of A roads but I'm still working on finding the right steering wheel and seat position combination.
I don't think the regular M4 door is much better for me and the centre console rest could be argued as in the way of the idrive dial.
I think I might want a slightly less fat steering wheel though, it's about the same as the Z4M and on both I end up holding the wheel above the expected positions.
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Post by MrPT » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:56 pm

Herminator wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:17 pm I think I might want a slightly less fat steering wheel though, it's about the same as the Z4M and on both I end up holding the wheel above the expected positions.
Same. I recently added a cheap cover to a mate’s non-M wheel and found that it resulted in a perfect thickness! I have no idea what motivated the modern chubby wheel phenomenon.
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Post by Mr Tidy » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:03 pm

I'd agree with you both - I'd rather have a less chubby steering wheel too. :thumbsup:
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Post by beanie » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:07 pm

Definitely the pick of the M3/4 range and yours is a great spec too :thumbsup: Very nice!
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Post by sars » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:49 pm

That’s gorgeous, congratulations :thumbsup:
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Post by Angelus666 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:18 pm

What a beauty...and a real bargain at mid £50k's now...it has a real visual presence. I really can't see this car ever dropping into the £20k mark so I think it's a good purchase right now.

The carbon bonnet underneath is a thing of beauty. :thumbsup:

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