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Post by ocrx8 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:44 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:17 am Ahhh

Fair enough

Why not have a go in the C63 and Rs and see what suits best...

You may fall in love with one or none
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:47 am

Yep

Agreed

I like the external look of the pre facelift..,

But like the interior touches of the facelift lol..

They are a handsome car in the rightcoliur though
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Post by Steve84N » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:47 am

So...

I had a day off today as I never work on my birthday and rather than spend it at home on the PlayStation I went out for a test drive in each of these cars. It was very conclusive and not hard to see which one was the winner for me.

- One had seats that hugged you lovingly and the other's were so open it made the Z4 feel like a race seat.
- One understeered badly at moderate speed on a roundabout.
- Both made dirty noises on downshifts in the sportier gearbox settings.
- One sounded very ordinary until way up the rev range.
- One had gloopy steering and the other was a delight.
- One was even worse on fuel than the other.
- Both had nice interiors and gizmos.

The C63 feels way more special and is of course the winner. The gearbox was nowhere near as good as the ZF in the 340i but I could learn to get the best from it and there is a full manual control mode. The sound is bombastic and worth the fuel bills. Given that a similar age/mileage C63 is notably cheaper than an RS4 it would offset the better economy of the RS4.

I saw a white car with a red interior and while I definitely want the red I think I'd prefer silver or the graphite colour. The previous owner had tried to make it look like the 507 edition and I didn't like it other than the alcantara wheel.

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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:46 pm

Common sense prevailed then......

2 great cars,but totally different.

The C63 being a more of an event everytime you turn the key.


What is the spec/budget you are looking for ?

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Post by Steve84N » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:30 pm

- Facelift for no head bolt issues and better interior.
- Red leather interior
- Any colour but black and ideally silver or the graphite
- Harmon Kardon
- Ideally DAB and reversing camera but not deal breakers
- Not fussed about the Performance version as it doesn't need more power and the brakes are more expensive
- I'd prefer to run a Quaife than OEM LSD so not fussed if it's just an open diff
- 40k miles or less

This can be had for plus or minus £30k where a similar RS4 is £5-10k more for some reason. Probably the horrendous fuel economy but the price difference is a few years of the extra fuel it'd drink compared to an RS4.
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:23 pm

Yep......

You will get something nice,although red leather seems fairly rare. i do know here there is a Silver facelift 11 plate with 49k on,has quaife fitted too. Has black leather,no dab or camera or HK.... Its £24k..

Just a correction though,headbolt issues dont affect all pre facelift cars. some 10 plate and all 60 plate and 11 plate cars are clear of the issue.

I like the trim in the facelift cars,but prefer the front on the pre facelift.....

Both are awesome,im sure you will enjoy when you do buy.

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Post by Steve84N » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:33 pm

Yeh, I'd found the engine range for the head bolt issues but it was a bit much to type out.

Black leather is a deal breaker. We have full grey interior in our 330 and my Z4 is red, they're both much nicer places to be as a result.

Quaife would be a bonus but as it's something that's easy to fix I don't mind if it's not done yet.

I couldn't agree more on the original front bumper and it seems it was better at cooling too.
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:44 pm

Yes,thats correct...

Some who track the facelift can get cooling issues at the extremes ..


Out of interest,how many have you seen with red leather ? When i was looking for mine,black was the predominent choice,the odd one had cream,some had 2 tone... I didnt see one on my travels with red leather,would look so cool with grey too

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Post by Steve84N » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:14 pm

I've only seen this one so far: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... archad=New
The previous owner has done some styling tweaks I'm not so fond of to look like a 507. Blacked out grills, badges, painted diffuser. Alcantara wheel and gear knob were nice though. The salesman is desperate to sell, he's been hounding me and has increased his offer on my car from £6,250 to £7,500 with little to no persuasion from me.

Trouble is, there's a 20k mile car for £30k without the styling bits I'd want to put back to standard so if he wants me to buy it he'll have to make the price notably lower.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... archad=New

Finally, my favourite outside colour: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... archad=New
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:19 pm

Wow..

Sapphire is a rare one,Most are Palladium or Tenorite...

Im not struck on the white ones to be honest. It was flavour of the month at one point,but like most fads they fall out of fashion..


You have a great budget,you will get a great car.

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Post by Steve84N » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:58 pm

Watch this space, things are moving faster than I thought...

White is my second or third choice but the interior is more important to me. In person it's a slightly pearlescent colour rather than taxi/police car white so I'm happy enough, plus it's much better at hiding scratches than the black I have now.

PS: If anyone wants a Z4 Coupe with loads of ace upgrades then see my for sale thread. :wink:
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:49 pm

Steve84N wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:58 pm Watch this space, things are moving faster than I thought...

White is my second or third choice but the interior is more important to me. In person it's a slightly pearlescent colour rather than taxi/police car white so I'm happy enough, plus it's much better at hiding scratches than the black I have now.

PS: If anyone wants a Z4 Coupe with loads of ace upgrades then see my for sale thread. :wink:
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Post by Steve84N » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:14 am

Not bad but I'm going for an estate, no real performance penalty and much better practicality with a dog. Also, more exhaust noise in the car. :D

I'm going back to a Mercedes dealership to finalise a deal this Saturday. 8)
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:41 am

:thumbsup:

Any luck selling yours or is it going in px ?

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