Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by scottbt » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:22 pm

Bit of an unclear mistyping Paul tbh.
What was stated prior was 10ltrs per wash is estimated by the filter manufacturer which is insane unless your washing your car like a polite hand jobbie.
On an average detail I would use around 200-250ltrs on prep to ensure safety, some may see this as excessive but better doing it that way than fapping your car up.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by PaulN » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:54 pm

200+ litres on one car is sorry insane....... You sure you've not got 1 too many zeros? Lol :wink:
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by powerontap » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:55 pm

Paint the car silver or white :poke:
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Post by playalistic » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:31 am

powerontap wrote:Paint the car silver or white
Now why didn't I think of that before ;)
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by scottbt » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:58 am

PaulN wrote:200+ litres on one car is sorry insane....... You sure you've not got 1 too many zeros? Lol :wink:
Not at all Paul.
If you were paying in excess of say £300-£600 would you want your car dry washed without pre rinsing?
I think its a safety zone on the job for me.
If its maintenance washing then average is 50-75 ltrs dependant on dirt build up.
Remember, some of my clients dont clean there cars so 2 weeks heavy soiling equals quite some grime.
If I changed over to one bucket sponge and dry washed then used a rinse aid, 10ltrs is sufficent but im not about to verge en route to cowboyville :D
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by PaulN » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:09 am

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PaulN wrote:200+ litres on one car is sorry insane....... You sure you've not got 1 too many zeros? Lol :wink:
Not at all Paul.
If you were paying in excess of say £300-£600 would you want your car dry washed without pre rinsing?
I think its a safety zone on the job for me.
If its maintenance washing then average is 50-75 ltrs dependant on dirt build up.
Remember, some of my clients dont clean there cars so 2 weeks heavy soiling equals quite some grime.
If I changed over to one bucket sponge and dry washed then used a rinse aid, 10ltrs is sufficent but im not about to verge en route to cowboyville :D
I still stink its alot of water. How bigs your tank in your van?
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Post by scottbt » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:15 pm

175ltr + 2 buckets carrying 15ltrs each ergo 200ltrs in total for wash stage.
I only carry whats neccesary tbh.
I will add that a large amount of my details are done on X5's and range rovers, maybe slightly less water is used on standard cars.
I would hazzard a guess taht with pre rinsing, foaming etc and final rinse you could probably get away with using 125ltrs at a stretch.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by chris » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:33 pm

My filter lasts for about a year, and they are free :thumbsup: (to me)
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Post by playalistic » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:41 pm

What filters are you all using? I'm looking to get an inline filter for the final hose down and was planning on this bad boy:

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Post by scottbt » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:58 pm

The monza filters are good from what ive heard but are only limited to a small amount of water.
I cant quite remember wher I had seen it but some places do RO filters that last far longer and give plenty more ltrs water filteration for good money.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by shiney28 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:20 pm

Cheers for your responses chaps!

Think I will start down the quick detailing spray route first, then possibly consider the inline filter.

Shipkiller, in answer to your earlier post in my thread.....I use Meguiars gold class shampoo, Autoglym super resin polish, followed by Meguiars Gold class liquid wax.

In actual fact just spent 2 hours doing the above, and now it is absolutely p**sing it down! Typical!

Still, the water beading is impressive!
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by Shipkiller » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:54 pm

shiney

I also NEVER let any section of the car start to dry while washing. I was a section, rinse that section and wet down the entire car again. Then after the car is completely washed, pull it into the garage to start to dry it. If you don't have a garage to do this, make sure you are not doing it in direct sunlight. I do like the idea of a deionizing filter that some have suggested. I can wash a Z4 in 20-30 minutes.

On my wife's black Z, I use Pinnacle Sovereign or Pinnacle Signature Series II wax after I apply a sealer. It really resists water marks and is killer on a dark car.

Of course, both cars get waxed at least every two weeks.
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Post by playalistic » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:08 pm

Every two weeks?! Isn't that a little overkill?
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by Shipkiller » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:20 am

Depends on what your definition of overkill is....

For the last month or so, I have been waxing the Coupe' every Saturday morning....

It takes about three hours... Start at 7:00 and finished by 10:00 or so. By then everyone in the house is up and moving around...
With a new coat of Pinnacle, dirt just does not seem to stick to the car....

Washing and waxing our cars/truck is a very relaxing way to unwind and de-stress.
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Post by playalistic » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:08 am

Shipkiller wrote:Depends on what your definition of overkill is....

For the last month or so, I have been waxing the Coupe' every Saturday morning....

It takes about three hours... Start at 7:00 and finished by 10:00 or so. By then everyone in the house is up and moving around...
With a new coat of Pinnacle, dirt just does not seem to stick to the car....

Washing and waxing our cars/truck is a very relaxing way to unwind and de-stress.
I hear you. I wash mine once per week but only top the wax up every third or fourth week. Every 4 months I strip it back and clay, polish, wax etc for a completely new application.

Agree with the unwind and de-stress comment although I'm not sure my family would agree. They don't understand :)
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