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Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

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Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by shiney28 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:19 pm

Rinse off
Meguiars gold class with meguiars lambswool mitt.
Rinse off
Meguiars microfibre water magnet towel to dry off.....

....but....still getting loads of water marks and streaky drying lines.

The only way I can avoid it is to dry a panel with towel in one hand and with the other hand have a small microfibre towel (polishing type) dry to quickly/lightly wipe the streak. Before moving onto next panel.

This works...but has anyone got any better ideas?
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by srhutch » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:26 pm

Filtered water should help, but I just keep mine wet until I dry it with MF cloths etc.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by NikB » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:27 pm

I also follow up with quick detailing spray but deionised water is definitely best.

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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by Inuit » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:38 pm

I have a black discovery and have the same issue, i wash it all over and then rewash and dry a panel at a time, takes me ages to clean the damn thing.

I have found RO water works better, but unless you have an RO (Reverse Osmosis) filter then it is not really an option, though you can go to most aquatic stores (the ones that sell marine fish) and they will sell it by the gallon not sure of the cost these days. RO water is not cheap if you do it yourself as it wastes 4 bad part to one good filtered (depending on your filter), filters vary, not worth investing in one if you have no other use or it. I have a fish tank and use the waste water for the garden, but you can guarantee i never have spare water when i want to wash the car. I still get marks just not so many
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by ksher » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:54 pm

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Post by z4alfie » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:48 am

I live in a hard water area which sems to be the cause of the problem, I use a pink final rinse additive called .......devil i cant recall the full name as its quarter to one in the morning and Im a bit worse the wear for drink. However, it is a great product that leaves all paintwork free from streaks and water marks. Its about a fiver for a litre from automotive stores, ASDA has it last month for £2.00. I'll check in the morning for the proper name and post it, good night all
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by Shipkiller » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:16 am

shiney28 wrote:Rinse off
Meguiars gold class with meguiars lambswool mitt.
Rinse off
Meguiars microfibre water magnet towel to dry off.....

....but....still getting loads of water marks and streaky drying lines.

The only way I can avoid it is to dry a panel with towel in one hand and with the other hand have a small microfibre towel (polishing type) dry to quickly/lightly wipe the streak. Before moving onto next panel.

This works...but has anyone got any better ideas?
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Post by nfc » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:58 am

I also go over the car with a QD - I use Megs Ultimate QD - gets rid of any watermarks!!
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by AlanJ » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:05 am

As others, I use an inline filter for the final rinse - no water marks at all.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by chris » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:40 am

I use filter on my hose pipe, works well with water marks etc, as inhibits the water :thumbsup:
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Post by scottbt » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:45 am

Im not in a hard water area ( to my knowledge any way )
Never had water spotting issues unless its a hot day and not working round the car fast enough.
You can add optimum no rinse ( ONR ) to your standard shampoo which can help slightly but a main question that has already been asked is, how has the car been prepped and protected?
It sounds to me as lack of protection is partly the cause but I will wait for reply to the question.
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by ksher » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:47 pm

The water filter is quite expensive option (£55). A filter can only treat 250 litres of hard water (for 25 washes).
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by scottbt » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:36 pm

Be no good for me then.
I tend to use more than double that for a wash better on the safe side rather than scrimping :thumbsup:
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by tjlazer » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:49 pm

I use zaino AIO and then follow with z2 when I'm putting on a new coat. Work slowly and approach panel by panel, drying as you go and even in the sun I never have any problems. Finish with z8 for extra bling!
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Re: Stopping water marks on sapphire black?

Post by PaulN » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:34 am

scottbt wrote:Be no good for me then.
I tend to use more than double that for a wash better on the safe side rather than scrimping :thumbsup:
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You say you use 500 litres per wash???? Doubt that, I did a on going review of my resin filter for 1.5 years http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/s ... ght=filter and worked out i used 30 to 40 litres on a full wash so your using a little too much mate.

I got 836 litres out of my 11 litres resin vessel and it cost me £35 to refill it. Best detailing tool i have

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