Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

Started to Detail my E89

Claying, polishing, waxing... share your secrets in here.
True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:50 pm

Thought I’d make a start on detailing my E89.

Today was Pre-wash, wash, fallout remover, re-wash then start to correct the paint.

Started correction today with the bonnet, firstly Clayed then 2 passes with Megs 101 Foam Cut on a yellow cutting pad, followed by 2 passes with Megs 205 ultra finishing polish - using my trusty old DAS 6 PRO

No ‘in progress’ photo’s, really struggled to get ‘pre’ photo’s too despite having a pair of powerful led lights... but the paint had plenty of swirls, typical of a well looked after 7 year old car really.

Bonnet finished, but not product on it yet.
B6160E70-5C38-4C28-A2DC-6017377E8F27.jpeg
B6160E70-5C38-4C28-A2DC-6017377E8F27.jpeg (101.29 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
015EF780-8D09-4A74-A45C-4D0454771CAD.jpeg
015EF780-8D09-4A74-A45C-4D0454771CAD.jpeg (112.54 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
268ED9F0-CEE0-45EA-A0E3-444160F35CEB.jpeg
268ED9F0-CEE0-45EA-A0E3-444160F35CEB.jpeg (97.25 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
015EF780-8D09-4A74-A45C-4D0454771CAD.jpeg
015EF780-8D09-4A74-A45C-4D0454771CAD.jpeg (112.54 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
B6160E70-5C38-4C28-A2DC-6017377E8F27.jpeg
B6160E70-5C38-4C28-A2DC-6017377E8F27.jpeg (101.29 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
Attachments
13564249-F183-49E5-AEFA-7A9E3D3F7D0A.jpeg
13564249-F183-49E5-AEFA-7A9E3D3F7D0A.jpeg (148.3 KiB) Viewed 1330 times
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

User avatar
Ole gits rule
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 4549
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:49 pm
Location: Pont-y-Pwll

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Ole gits rule » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:00 pm

Looking good sir - still love that colour :thumbsup:
M4 Vert in Yas Marina Blue
2011 23i M Sport Highline in Alpine White with Smart Top installed - Gone but not forgotten.

User avatar
Stevo1987
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1203
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:08 pm
Location: Breckland, Norfolk

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Stevo1987 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:18 pm

Looks good but a question to all you expert detailers out there. In the lifetime of the car how many times can you do this? Y'know reducing the clear coat, because that is what is happening when removing swirls and stuff. I have seen the "pros" on da tube and they have gauges to measure the thickness. I assume they can tell if the car has been done before and if it can't be taken any further.
2014 Z4 e89 35is in mineral grey.
2012 Audi TTS in Ibis white.

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:47 pm

Ole gits rule wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:00 pm Looking good sir - still love that colour :thumbsup:
Thank you, yes it makes such a difference when the suns out though.... roll on summer :thumbsup:
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

User avatar
Ole gits rule
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 4549
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:49 pm
Location: Pont-y-Pwll

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Ole gits rule » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:51 pm

Just wish my budget had allowed one, one day a 35iS in VO :D
M4 Vert in Yas Marina Blue
2011 23i M Sport Highline in Alpine White with Smart Top installed - Gone but not forgotten.

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:52 pm

Stevo1987 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:18 pm Looks good but a question to all you expert detailers out there. In the lifetime of the car how many times can you do this? Y'know reducing the clear coat, because that is what is happening when removing swirls and stuff. I have seen the "pros" on da tube and they have gauges to measure the thickness. I assume they can tell if the car has been done before and if it can't be taken any further.
There isn’t a numerical answer to this as it depends on many things.

In my case, and I’m not a pro detailer, I use a DA (dual action) polishing machine which is much less aggressive and more forgiving than a rotary (especially in the hands of a novice!)

In addition, once I’ve done a car it only ever really needs ‘doing again’ with a finishing compound which removes almost no clear coat using a DA machine... plenty of info all over the internet about it :thumbsup:
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

User avatar
tomscott
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 7470
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:26 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Started to Detail my E89

Post by tomscott » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:59 pm

Results look amazing.

I had a go on my M this weekend, same prep but Mags DA with ultimate compound and 5" red foam cutting pad 4 passes on the bonnet barely made a dent in the clear coat that paint is rock hard. Same on my 996 C4S 16 years old took all the swirls out... paint looked amazing.

I know the Z4s paint is renowned being hard but wow... its all original paint too. Think I might need a more aggressive pad and compound...

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:18 pm

tomscott wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:59 pm Results look amazing.

I had a go on my M this weekend, same prep but Mags DA with ultimate compound and 5" red foam cutting pad 4 passes on the bonnet barely made a dent in the clear coat that paint is rock hard. Same on my 996 C4S 16 years old took all the swirls out... paint looked amazing.

I know the Z4s paint is renowned being hard but wow... its all original paint too. Think I might need a more aggressive pad and compound...
Thank you,

BMW paint is hard, you’re spot on! VAG paint is also typically hard, But rather that than something like Honda, which is typically very soft.

I’ve been ‘practicing’ with my DAS 6 pro for circa 10 yrs+, I’m not familiar with the Megs Ultimate, but Megs 101 Foam Cut is designed for hard paints as are the yellow cutting pads I have. I’ve also got some microfibre cutting pads, which work very well with the Megs 101 on super-hard paint.. but there’s a different technique altogether for those, slower speeds etc.

I find it therapeutic, it took me a few hours to do the bonnet (big panel on an E89 :rofl: ) and I’ll do a bit more each day until the cars completely corrected and ready for some sort of sealant or ceramic wax :thumbsup:
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:36 pm

Spent a little bit more time in the garage this morning,

Went over the bonnet again with a softer finishing pad and 205, then applied a coat of Autofiness Ultra Glaze with a super-soft glaze pad. Not sure what wax / sealant I’m going to apply yet but finding love all over the net for the turtle wax ceramic waxes currently... so might give that a try :thumbsup:

I wouldn’t normally apply any kind of product until I’d DA’d the whole car, but it’s a massive panel and I can easily work around it when working on the front bumper and front wings.

Very happy with how it’s looking so far.

2E47CA05-B87B-45CC-B2F6-CD5FD3B5F565.jpeg
2E47CA05-B87B-45CC-B2F6-CD5FD3B5F565.jpeg (125.51 KiB) Viewed 1237 times
9A7D1DA5-2B7B-4F21-8E5A-8C4CCBF0D196.jpeg
9A7D1DA5-2B7B-4F21-8E5A-8C4CCBF0D196.jpeg (98.26 KiB) Viewed 1237 times
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

User avatar
1000rr
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1057
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:53 pm

Started to Detail my E89

Post by 1000rr » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:40 pm

Mint. :thumbsup:
Sterling 3.0, Bentley burgundy leather, Aeros..
Ducati Supersport S


Image

User avatar
Stevo1987
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1203
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:08 pm
Location: Breckland, Norfolk

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Stevo1987 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:58 pm

True-Blue wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:52 pm
Stevo1987 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:18 pm Looks good but a question to all you expert detailers out there. In the lifetime of the car how many times can you do this? Y'know reducing the clear coat, because that is what is happening when removing swirls and stuff. I have seen the "pros" on da tube and they have gauges to measure the thickness. I assume they can tell if the car has been done before and if it can't be taken any further.


There isn’t a numerical answer to this as it depends on many things.

In my case, and I’m not a pro detailer, I use a DA (dual action) polishing machine which is much less aggressive and more forgiving than a rotary (especially in the hands of a novice!)

In addition, once I’ve done a car it only ever really needs ‘doing again’ with a finishing compound which removes almost no clear coat using a DA machine... plenty of info all over the internet about it :thumbsup:
Yes, there is "plenty of info all over the internet". You could answer most posts on here with that comment. :D
2014 Z4 e89 35is in mineral grey.
2012 Audi TTS in Ibis white.

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:02 pm

Stevo1987 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:58 pm
True-Blue wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:52 pm
Stevo1987 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:18 pm Looks good but a question to all you expert detailers out there. In the lifetime of the car how many times can you do this? Y'know reducing the clear coat, because that is what is happening when removing swirls and stuff. I have seen the "pros" on da tube and they have gauges to measure the thickness. I assume they can tell if the car has been done before and if it can't be taken any further.


There isn’t a numerical answer to this as it depends on many things.

In my case, and I’m not a pro detailer, I use a DA (dual action) polishing machine which is much less aggressive and more forgiving than a rotary (especially in the hands of a novice!)

In addition, once I’ve done a car it only ever really needs ‘doing again’ with a finishing compound which removes almost no clear coat using a DA machine... plenty of info all over the internet about it :thumbsup:
Yes, there is "plenty of info all over the internet". You could answer most posts on here with that comment. :D
Ok Steveo, 99 times.... but don’t come back moaning if you break through the clear coat at the 66th attempt :headbang:
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

True-Blue
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3197
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:10 pm
Location: Bristol/Bath

Started to Detail my E89

Post by True-Blue » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:34 pm

Bit more work on the car today, same process, tackled the boot and the roof..... I’m never buying a ‘non-metallic’ black car Ever, never worked on straight black before... nightmare! :headbang:
6614D66C-8976-4BE9-BA62-14F4FBA40346.jpeg
6614D66C-8976-4BE9-BA62-14F4FBA40346.jpeg (84.85 KiB) Viewed 1121 times
A478EBAB-A673-4044-8BE9-37E517FFCE77.jpeg
A478EBAB-A673-4044-8BE9-37E517FFCE77.jpeg (83.89 KiB) Viewed 1121 times
4E06156E-2FA7-4194-8E72-C49AA53A1955.jpeg
4E06156E-2FA7-4194-8E72-C49AA53A1955.jpeg (117.44 KiB) Viewed 1121 times
0C838193-2FD7-445A-8CC1-15773E1FAD34.jpeg
0C838193-2FD7-445A-8CC1-15773E1FAD34.jpeg (166.04 KiB) Viewed 1121 times
Alpina Roadster S Lux no. 204 (1 of 15 uk cars in Alpina Blue)

Previous Z4’s :E89 30i, E89 20i, E85 3.0Si (X4) E85 3.0i, E86 3.0 Si, E85 2.5si, E85 2.5i

Ming
Member
Member
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri May 08, 2020 8:50 am

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Ming » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:45 pm

I have the same car in the same colour coordination. Can't say mine is ever gonna be as sparkling as yours, but even with "normal" washing, polishing and waxing, I'm loving the colour :P
I do like to go topless......
....... in my remapped 20i in Valencia Orange with Black Roof :driving:

Richfarr
Member
Member
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:24 pm

Started to Detail my E89

Post by Richfarr » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 pm

Not sure what wax / sealant I’m going to apply yet but finding love all over the net for the turtle wax ceramic waxes currently... so might give that a try
It gets my vote easy to use and great results
2007 2.0i S E85 Monaco Blue Beige roof and interior

Post Reply