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North Wales Run, Sunday 05.04.20 - CANCELLED

That’s funny, haven’t been on the site in months! Just logged in now because I thought of the last north wales spin and I see you just posted about 2020!

I’m going to put my name down along with Aria again, will let you know if anything changes :thumbsup:

Looking forward to it, the last 2 years were generally my motoring highlights of the year :driving:
 
jimbo1958 said:
Would love to join you guys in the F-Type but fully understand if you want to limit the run to Zeds only. :thumbsup:
Hi Jimbo. I can only say that if there are any places left very much closer to the date then you would be very welcome to come along at the rear of the convoy. Keep an eye on here a few weeks before the 5th April and drop me a reminder PM :thumbsup:
Si
 
Peter-E36 said:
That’s funny, haven’t been on the site in months! Just logged in now because I thought of the last north wales spin and I see you just posted about 2020!

I’m going to put my name down along with Aria again, will let you know if anything changes :thumbsup:

Looking forward to it, the last 2 years were generally my motoring highlights of the year :driving:
Hi Peter. More than happy to have you guys come over from Ireland to join us again :driving: It'll be good to see you.
Will you be in convoy with Attilio and Andy Earthdweller ?
 
patriot66 said:
jimbo1958 said:
Would love to join you guys in the F-Type but fully understand if you want to limit the run to Zeds only. :thumbsup:
Hi Jimbo. I can only say that if there are any places left very much closer to the date then you would be very welcome to come along at the rear of the convoy. Keep an eye on here a few weeks before the 5th April and drop me a reminder PM :thumbsup:
Si

Will do...thanks. :thumbsup:
 
jimbo1958 said:
patriot66 said:
jimbo1958 said:
Would love to join you guys in the F-Type but fully understand if you want to limit the run to Zeds only. :thumbsup:
Hi Jimbo. I can only say that if there are any places left very much closer to the date then you would be very welcome to come along at the rear of the convoy. Keep an eye on here a few weeks before the 5th April and drop me a reminder PM :thumbsup:
Si

Will do...thanks. :thumbsup:

Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:
 
mr wilks said:
jimbo1958 said:
patriot66 said:
Hi Jimbo. I can only say that if there are any places left very much closer to the date then you would be very welcome to come along at the rear of the convoy. Keep an eye on here a few weeks before the 5th April and drop me a reminder PM :thumbsup:
Si

Will do...thanks. :thumbsup:

Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:

Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.
 
srhutch said:
mr wilks said:
jimbo1958 said:
Will do...thanks. :thumbsup:

Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:

Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?
 
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
mr wilks said:
Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:

Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Totally agree with idej_z4.
My sentiments too. :thumbsup:
 
Without getting political I think both Jimbo and Patriot were well judged in their comments

Jim accepts the run is numbers limited and that he doesn’t have a Zed, and would like to come along if numbers permit and Patriot has accepted that and agreed

I do feel it should be left at that

:driving:
 
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
mr wilks said:
Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:

Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Don't want to prolong the debate as it's been put to bed, but in respect of your point Dan, it depends whether you think moderators are there only to enforce rules or whether they are also guardians of forum ethos...
 
z4pilot said:
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Don't want to prolong the debate as it's been put to bed, but in respect of your point Dan, it depends whether you think moderators are there only to enforce rules or whether they are also guardians of forum ethos...

Forum ethos being an unwritten word that lives in peoples heads and therefore is different to everyone so in reality isn't a real thing...tough thing to guard for sure! :wink:

I get where you're coming from though Sean, just on a public board that is going to generate a lot of traffic due to the success of previous events I'm probably just questioning whether it is the platform to be leaving an opinion with such a negative connotation. Maybe a DM might have been a better option.

In true Corbyn Brexit style I'll just sit on the fence and pretend I don't have an opinion even though my actions probably make it 100% transparent what I think of the whole situ. :thumbsup: :P
 
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
mr wilks said:
Seriously :? a forum organised run & a forum member ( longstanding who's attended many many events ) has to wait to see if there are spare places because he no longer has a Z :cry:

Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Just because I am a mod it doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. Jim has been on the forum for 10 years and just because he doesn't have a Z4 anymore shouldn't mean he is excluded. If that was the case Marlon and Wondermike wouldn't be moderators as they no longer own Z4's. The forum is about community also and Jim has made many friends over the 10 years and this would be an opportunity to see them again. The unwritten rule generally is that anybody attending with a non Z4 normally goes at the back.

As I said that's just my view, which I'm entitled to, otherwise if I am here just as a mod then it will be goodbye.
 
srhutch said:
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Just because I am a mod it doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. Jim has been on the forum for 10 years and just because he doesn't have a Z4 anymore shouldn't mean he is excluded. If that was the case Marlon and Wondermike wouldn't be moderators as they no longer own Z4's. The forum is about community also and Jim has made many friends over the 10 years and this would be an opportunity to see them again. The unwritten rule generally is that anybody attending with a non Z4 normally goes at the back.

As I said that's just my view, which I'm entitled to, otherwise if I am here just as a mod then it will be goodbye.

You raise some interesting points, worthy of a thread of their own rather than one discussing a particular run

In essence you raise the whole point of purpose of the forum

What and who is it for ? And who should or shouldn’t attend and partake in Z4 runs?

What differentiates the Z4 forum from other motoring forums ?

How does a Zed meet differ from a cars and coffee meet or PistonHeads Sunday Service ?

If there are a limited number of spaces on a run and all are taken up by people who do not own Z4’s excluding people who do, is it still a Z4 run ?

Maybe as mods it is question you should ask and perhaps put a limit on the number of non Zeds attending ?

I do think that this thread should just be about the North Wales Run and maybe those that run the forum should make a decision about what vehicles are eligible elsewhere

Finally .. thanks Si for organising and putting a lot of hard work into this

(I’ve met Jim a number of times and he’s a top bloke .. I’m not having a dig at him at all )
 
srhutch said:
idej_z4 said:
srhutch said:
Have to agree with this, not what the forum is about.

As a moderator I would have thought an 'opinion' is not really what you should be offering. Whatever anyone thinks about it yours surely should be the last voice offering an opinion unless someone has broken a rule?

Just because I am a mod it doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. Jim has been on the forum for 10 years and just because he doesn't have a Z4 anymore shouldn't mean he is excluded. If that was the case Marlon and Wondermike wouldn't be moderators as they no longer own Z4's. The forum is about community also and Jim has made many friends over the 10 years and this would be an opportunity to see them again. The unwritten rule generally is that anybody attending with a non Z4 normally goes at the back.

As I said that's just my view, which I'm entitled to, otherwise if I am here just as a mod then it will be goodbye.

Thanks for your input Steve (srhutch) and Andy (mr wilks).
Certainly wasn't my intention to stir up a hornets nest.
I was hoping to try and attend a few more Forum meets this year as well as the "National" that I've attended for the past 10 years. In that 10 years, I can't remember one year where there were no non Zeds but as Steve stated always at the back. This was the first year for me in the Jag and also there was Metal Licker(Boxster) and GJC72(M240i) and we happily drove at the back.

Back to this event and I fully appreciate there's limited numbers. Although I'll still register an interest to attend, I'm getting the feeling that perhaps I shouldn't even if there's available space.

I'm sure it'll be a great weekend though for all Zed owners that attend. Cheers. :thumbsup:
 
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