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Post by road warrior » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:59 pm

ok one thing at a time eh..
springs ...ask here.. someone may have some lying around it wqill get you out of a pickle for now.
tyres we talked about..
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Post by firebobby » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:31 pm

Stigbew wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:34 pm Here is the big update!

Took it to an indy called Autotechnik today, they charged £78 for the diagnosis.
(www.auto-technik.co.uk)

...and the EPS motor is dead :headbang: , this was worst case scenario but I was prepared for this and have researched ECU Testing who will repair and refurbish my motor for £378 inc VAT + Postage. This means I need to remove the steering rack and motor which I don't know how to do but hopefully someone can point me in the direction of a good tutorial. For the indy to replace the motor they wanted... drum roll please...

£3102.04!!! Almost laughed when I heard that one. :x

As for the rest of the car the outlook wasn't much better, rear coil totally sheared (which didn't appear on the MOT less than 3 weeks ago hmmm) and I will detail the other problems and quotes below.

EPS module/steering column replacement £3102.04
Real coil springs £169.26
Auxiliary belt (worn) £75.52
NSF Tyre perished £121.86
OSF p bush and alignment £171.34
Oil filter housing gasket and engine clean and recheck £187.57
Rear discs and pads £231.88
Futher investigation into parking sensor fault £78.00
All including parts/labour/VAT

Obviously left kindly saying no thank you to all of the above but it is quite the list for me to be getting on with. They sent me a video of the car which I understand is becoming pretty standard nowadays which you can view here
(https://app.myservicetrust.co.uk/video/ ... 6a1386f000)

So £4137.47 in quoted repairs on a car I paid significantly less than that on. Any help or advice will be greatly received!
£378 for the ecu repair is steep, it will be the ECU that needs repair, not the motor. You can remove the motor with out taking the column out.
https://www.ecutesting.com/product-cata ... eps010011/
Rear coils are a piece of pi55 to change and are pretty cheap to buy.
So much of that can be done DIY, depending how handy you are.
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Post by Stigbew » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:38 pm

firebobby wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:31 pm
Stigbew wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:34 pm Here is the big update!

Took it to an indy called Autotechnik today, they charged £78 for the diagnosis.
(www.auto-technik.co.uk)

...and the EPS motor is dead :headbang: , this was worst case scenario but I was prepared for this and have researched ECU Testing who will repair and refurbish my motor for £378 inc VAT + Postage. This means I need to remove the steering rack and motor which I don't know how to do but hopefully someone can point me in the direction of a good tutorial. For the indy to replace the motor they wanted... drum roll please...

£3102.04!!! Almost laughed when I heard that one. :x

As for the rest of the car the outlook wasn't much better, rear coil totally sheared (which didn't appear on the MOT less than 3 weeks ago hmmm) and I will detail the other problems and quotes below.

EPS module/steering column replacement £3102.04
Real coil springs £169.26
Auxiliary belt (worn) £75.52
NSF Tyre perished £121.86
OSF p bush and alignment £171.34
Oil filter housing gasket and engine clean and recheck £187.57
Rear discs and pads £231.88
Futher investigation into parking sensor fault £78.00
All including parts/labour/VAT

Obviously left kindly saying no thank you to all of the above but it is quite the list for me to be getting on with. They sent me a video of the car which I understand is becoming pretty standard nowadays which you can view here
(https://app.myservicetrust.co.uk/video/ ... 6a1386f000)

So £4137.47 in quoted repairs on a car I paid significantly less than that on. Any help or advice will be greatly received!
£378 for the ecu repair is steep, it will be the ECU that needs repair, not the motor. You can remove the motor with out taking the column out.
https://www.ecutesting.com/product-cata ... eps010011/
Rear coils are a piece of pi55 to change and are pretty cheap to buy.
So much of that can be done DIY, depending how handy you are.
I'm confused, the link you sent to ECU testing is the same one I'm planning to use, the £378 is just the £305 rebuild including the VAT and postage?

As for being handy I'm always enthusiastic to learn, will attempt pretty much anything that isn't engine or electrical, so hopefully can do all the other jobs myself. I see the hardest being investigating the oil leak depending on where it is.
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Post by firebobby » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:00 pm

This is a thread about my problem viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105626&hilit=steering&start=30
It should help you remove the motor, I only paid £306 all in and that was only last year.
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Post by Stigbew » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:29 am

Ah right, attempting the job today, I'm sure your thread will come in handy.

Guess that's inflation for ya :(
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Post by buzyg » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:39 am

Stigbew wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:29 am Ah right, attempting the job today, I'm sure your thread will come in handy.

Guess that's inflation for ya :(
Hope it goes well. :)
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Post by Stigbew » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:06 pm

Update: Took me and my dad about 6 hours, of blood, sweat and swearing but the eps module is out and packaged up ready to be sent off. Ended up being much harder than I thought mostly down to poor access for tools, ended up removing the drivers seat to get enough space and even then was still tricky but glad it's done. Also ordered a new set of coils and taken the old ones off in anticipation of fitting the new ones tomorrow or monday. Thanks for all the advice, couldn't have done it without the forum! :D
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Post by road warrior » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:48 pm

And a great dad by the sounds of it, I had the ultimate hairdressers car too for a while too, back in the day. :thumbsup:
If you ever think I'm off my rocker.. Just put me back in it and walk away... It's the kindest thing
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Post by firebobby » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:23 pm

It helps to have a stash of different size tools, I managed it with the seat in. Be careful when you refit the seat as you can get the airbag light on, read up on the re connection process, to be safe. :thumbsup:
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Post by Stigbew » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Well this is a resounding endorsement of ECU testing, fantastic service, could not recommend highly enough.

A few things to note, if you go on their website or ring up they will quote £305 plus VAT plus postage. If you go onto their eBay site however you can get it for £300 all in, quite the saving. They are located in Derbyshire which isn’t far from me so I asked if I could drop the module in rather than pay to post it to them, they were more than accommodating of this. Professional looking premises on an industrial site with helpful staff. Got text message alerts with updates about where my unit was in the process. I dropped it off 10am Monday and at 10:30 Tuesday I got a call saying it had been posted by DHL recorded delivery, 12 o’clock today it arrives and after installing it works perfectly.

I was quoted £3102.04 for an Indy to do the work but got the whole job done for £300 using ECU testing and a guide posted on this forum. If anyone has this power steering fault feel free to get in contact and I’ll give any assistance I can.

Can’t wait to drive the car up to Edinburgh (320 miles) this weekend!!!
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Post by obewan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Result :thumbsup:
Glad to hear you got it sorted promptly (and saved a bob or two) now you can start to enjoy the car! :driving:
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Post by firebobby » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:30 pm

Don't forget the life time guarantee on their work.
If you have/had twitchy steering, like the car wants to drive it's self, you can adjust the concentric ring on the motor, that will sort it.
I must have gone through ebay too, glad it's sorted
Oh, and I don't recall seeing any photos of your car yet, I may have missed them but if I haven't...get snapping :poke:

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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:40 pm

Great news OP. :thumbsup:

That's the problem these days - all most places seem to want to do is remove a part and fit a new one. :evil:

As you discovered, sometimes there are much better options!
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Post by buzyg » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:40 pm

Dad's and forums. Very handy things. :D Good to read you have it sorted. :thumbsup:
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Post by Stigbew » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:45 pm

firebobby wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:30 pm Don't forget the life time guarantee on their work.
If you have/had twitchy steering, like the car wants to drive it's self, you can adjust the concentric ring on the motor, that will sort it.
I must have gone through ebay too, glad it's sorted
Oh, and I don't recall seeing any photos of your car yet, I may have missed them but if I haven't...get snapping :poke:

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You are correct, but I rectified that situation today: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=115744
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